Article: Watford V Leeds united, match thread Watford FC Football

He only encouraged me by showing some objectivity and agreeing that you're all overreacting. That is what bitterness is, can't accept that you lost fair and square so you blame everything under the sun instead of accepting your team weren't up to the job.

I apologise for mixing you up with Lloydinio, my eyes are tired.

 

Do you know - what I don't understand is why you are here. Have you never been really fed up when you have lost - how nice is it just to rub others face in their misfortune -does it make you feel good. You confessed to just wumming - is that really how you get pleasure? You have not said one decent thing about us, have not acknowledged that the game was seriuosly changed during the warm up but just criticised our team. I for one have not blamed Leeds for our failure today - just gave the reasons why I think we underperformed - still carry on if laughing at peolple whose dreams have been dented gives you pleasure - big man you are

 

Lol oh dear best you stay a small club and enjoy your lime light while you can, but thank you for recognising us as a big club, and yes average season,but im hopeful we will sign the right players and have a good crack next season ,and when I say sign I mean sign not loan 13 players to get us through a season, I bear no malice to Watford fans you are neither here not there when it comes to rivarlys, you are a middle of the road club that nobody actually really notices, I made a comment earlier about lesta beating you but after thinking about it I hope you guys actually do go up and enjoy your season in the sun, so good luck in the play offs guys.

 

Being sad is one thing, taking your sadness out on Leeds is another thing. I came here originally to put right some wrongs including that you believe Poleon should have had a red and that you were "robbed", because I can't stand an injustice and blaming your failure on anything other than your own players is an injustice. But then I found it highly amusing just how bitter and small time your fans really are. Easy to stick around for easy amusement.

And just for the record, the "highly dangerous" and "malicious" push by Poleon wasn't even mentioned on the Football League show. The impartial-by-company-policy BBC didn't think it was a controversial decision to let him stay on the pitch. The "penalty shout" got a half arsed mention but they didn't really think it was worth discussing either, mainly because a referee isn't supposed to give a penalty when a player falls over. They did defend Deeney a little and mentioned that he never made contact with Brown, I disagree and I'm sure he clipped Brown's ankle as he went through, but they also said it was the right decision and that it was a lack of discipline on Deeney's part.

There you have it. The objective viewpoint has been given.

 

It's understandable that you're upset and this is the source of some of your ludicrous comments. No doubt tomorrow, you'll come on the Leeds board to apologise.

 

I saw a lot of discussjon about Poleon's push on Sky last night... and the view that is was nasty and dangerous play etc etc.

he didn't do himself any favours by his later behaviour when he scored either.

A young hothead ........

Reality is we let in two stupid goals, had a player sent off......

 

Of course we will stay a small club that is until we move to a new stadium as, ye old Vic groans when it squeezes in 15k. Conversely, Leeds is a big Club but not to big to fail and as usual you have all conspired to clutch defeat from the prospect of victory, perhaps next Season with your new foreign backers (irony?) you might achieve what we have.
Everyone is banging on over the loan thing and missing the wider point that Watford was bought as part of a business project. No one reaaly expected the turnround this Season from a Club used to challenging for 17th to one close to automatic promotion. My expectation was a solid season and a push for next but like my fellow Hornets got swept along with a new style of footie, it's been great and for a small Town, good for everyone.

So, regardless of the playoffs, we 'Orns, wherever we may be, are very happy bunnies.

Good luck next season, its football after all.....

 

If you can find one comment I have made to apologise for then I would - but since I have said nothing about Leeds that would be hard.. I blame our defeat on the bad goalkeeping luck - I don't think Leeds are worth a comment in the match - they were as their league position shows totally ordinary - like most English fans though I still don't like them.

 

Well if we are going by what pundits think then I dont want to live in this world anymore! TFLS never gives Watford as much coverage as many other teams, and simply scrapes over leagues 1+2, so by your logic there are never any controversial decisons in leagues 1+2 as they are never spoken about. Furthermore, Sky did talk about them and said that the penalty was a certain. Football pundits are often clueless as they havent played the game, or they played it in a different time.

 

Doesn't change the fact that Sky are biased, and BBC are not. The BBC can't be, by company policy.

They didn't skim over these games, they were the first up and the most talked about because they were the most important games in the fixture list. The fact is the push wasn't even mentioned. The penalty decision was mentioned and then discarded, clearly not worth talking about, still not sure how falling over in the box deserves a penalty? I've seen it at least 6 times now and still can't see any contact that would cause him to fall over, looks to me like it's minimal contact that is allowed, body against body, then your player just throws himself to the ground. Most of your players didn't even appeal because they knew it wasn't going to fly!

 

BBC not biased? - now that just about takes the whole biscuit barrel and why would Sky be biased and the BBC not? Obviously you have not heard Alan, I only love northern football, Green rattle on and on about Leeds belonging in Prem as they are a "big" club and the likes of Fulham and West Ham should not be...the BBC are about as biased as it is possible to be.
Of course you are not looking at the incidents with a unbiased view either are you? Of course not...but you are damned by your own words. ANY contact, not matter how minimal, is a foul if it causes a player to fall over. So if you have seen contact and it causes the player to fall, it is a foul...unless Leeds are allowed to change the rules of course and I'm sure Mr Alan Green would agree with you as well

 

But the contact didn't cause the player to fall over. Brown made contact, then the player threw himself to ground. You're putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5. If there was any shred of evidence that the contact had caused him to fall down then fair enough, but in this instance it hasn't.

As for the BBC saying Leeds are a big club and belong in the Premier League, you'll find most media outlets say that. Doesn't mean they like Leeds. In fact, I'm pretty sure they don't, they have very poor relations with Leeds after the falling out over radio coverage and certain articles questioning the ownership and other things, things they were obligated as a media outlet to do.

The BBC aren't biased because it's their company policy not to be. It always has been and it always will be. They provide the objective view, always. It's impossible to always get it spot on but they are a damn sight more objective than Sky, who feed the viewers what they want the viewers to believe. Their horrendously Derby-biased coverage of the Leeds v Derby game recently is evidence enough that the company itself is biased against us. They even had a Derby player on the pundit panel and all the coverage was from their perspective, would have been forgiven for mistaking it for Derby's own channel. But even Sky think Leeds belong in the Premier League!

As an added point, god forbid anybody should show any bias in favour of the North... no, much better for all the media outlets to continue pretending the North doesn't exist.

Bitter, bitter Watford can't accept the decisions weren't as controversial as you'd like to think they were. If they were controversial then you might be able to pretend your team are better than they really are and were just "robbed".

You're not even the favourites in the play offs!

 

You really are a sanctimonious twat. I did not encourage anything - just pointed out that a few on here were not really seeing things for what they were last night. "encourage his wumming" I Think you'll find that was people making statements like "we did not lose fair and square".

 

So the BBC have said no penalty, but Sky were certain it was. Now we have this in the Guardian who im sure most feel to be impartial and not a sensationalist paper like the red tops

 

You'll find that was written by a reporter known for his dislike of Leeds, and the article has since been edited multiple times.

This was then added in later by an editor: "Brian McDermott claimed the injury to Bond was an accident and Zola did not seek to castigate Poleon, who later made amends with the Watford goalkeeper."

 

Can't we then leave it at that?

 

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Many have criticised this article, it's terrible journalism and so very evidently biased in favour of Watford. In fact the writer of this article has been getting rather agitated at the criticism he's received on twitter and has had to go back and make several revisions to the article for the sake of appearing to make an impartial review. The original article ignored several key issues including the elbow on Morison and a few other bits here and there, was clearly written in favour of Watford.

Michael Brown has done nothing except stand next to Jonathan Hogg, in fact I'm miffed at the referee for not booking Hogg for diving as per the rules.

Watch it again without the biased perspective.

 

I think that is how it should be left. The fact your own manager sees it as a young player's honest mistake tells more than any video ever can.

 

From what I saw there was no malice from the Leeds player when Bond was injured - it was an unfortunate clash with our own player so not there shouldn't have ben a red card. Also how pleasing to see the Leeds fans applauding Bond off the pitch as well, they're so often criticised so it was good to see. HOWEVER the penalty in the first half was clear but then again so was the Leeds claim in the second half - I don't know about our second claim as it was one of those some give and some don't. Over all we were far too nervous yesterday and really didn't play at all well. We'll have to improve for Leicester.