This will blow your socks off !!! Take a look at these price comparisons and the stark contrast in German football clubs attitudes towards their fans compared to England's. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...g-Premier-League-shame.html?ito=feeds-newsxml £104 - the bargain price of a Bayern Munich season ticket... and German chief explains why it puts rip-off Premier League to shame By ADAM SHERGOLD They're now just 90 minutes away from ending their 12-year wait for the Champions League, have already been crowned Bundesliga champions by a resounding margin and could complete the Treble when they take on Stuttgart in the German Cup final in June. And it seems Bayern Munich - by popular opinion the best team in Europe right now - can do little wrong off the pitch either. The Bavarian giants have some of the cheapest season tickets anywhere in the world, with an adult one in the standing section at the Allianz Arena costing just £104. By contrast, the cheapest one at Arsenal will set you back £985 and Liverpool £725. Even the least expensive in the Premier League for the 2012-2013 season - at Wigan - is £255. But while it's well-known that the Bundesliga has some of the cheapest seats in world football, it's their philosophy towards pricing that is so refreshing. Bayern's brilliance in setting up an all-German final with Borussia Dortmund has been marked not with eulogies about their style of play, but a quote from president Uli Hoeness on looking after the fans that has gone viral on social media. In the soundbite, from last year, he says: 'We could charge more than £104. Let's say we charged £300. We'd get £2m more in income but what's £2m to us? 'In a transfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between £104 and £300 is huge for the fan. 'We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. 'That's the biggest difference between us and England.' Given their exciting brand of football and the regular success it brings, Bayern would have every right to charge a premium rate, yet their prices are among the lowest in the division. Unfortunately, Hoeness now has other things to worry about after suggestions of tax evasion came to light last month, but he won't budge on Bayern's pricing strategy. The most expensive for 2012-2013, in excellent seats overlooking the half-way line, come in a shade under £550 for the season. Disabled fans, meanwhile, can watch their team all season at the Allianz Arena for just £67. Indeed, the most expensive season ticket in the entire division comes in at £823 - and for that you get to watch Jurgen Klopp's European finalists Borussia Dortmund from the best seats in the Westfalenstadion. Members' benefits at Bayern also outstrip those available at Premier League sides. Adults pay around £50, 18-25-year-olds £33 and concessions £25 each year. For this, they get priority when booking tickets for home and away matches, with a small discount on the ticket price, and a subscription to the matchday programme. With the ticket discount, the cost of watching the prospective European champions can be less than a tenner. Little wonder everybody is talking about how German football got it spectacularly right. Are you watching, Premier League? COMPARISON OF PREMIER LEAGUE AND BUNDESLIGA SEASON TICKETS All for 2012-2013 season PREMIER LEAGUE Arsenal £985-£1,955 Aston Villa £295-£580 (Earlybird), £325-£595 afterwards Chelsea £595-£1,250 Everton £399-£597.60 (Earlybird), £443-£672 afterwards Fulham £399-£597.60 (Earlybird), £499-£959 Liverpool £725-£780 Manchester City £275-£745 Manchester United £532-£950 Newcastle United £373-£717 Norwich City £547-£608 Queens Park Rangers £499-£949 Reading £375-425 (Earlybird), £525-£595 Stoke City £399-£599 Sunderland £425-£525 Swansea City £449-£499 Tottenham Hotspur £730-£1,845 West Bromwich Albion £349-£449 West Ham United £600-£850 Wigan Athletic £255-£350 BUNDESLIGA Augsburg £274-£469 Bayer Leverkusen £133-£450 Bayern Munich £104-£540 Borussia Dortmund £303-£823 Borussia Monchengladbach £274-£511 Eintracht Frankfurt £267-£635 Fortuna Dusseldorf £212-£574 Freiburg £307-£590 Greuther Furth £258-£407 Hamburg £230-£603 Hannover £75-£278 Hoffenheim £212-£475 Mainz £155-£516 Nuremburg £200-£729 Schalke 04 £303-£735 Stuttgart £145-£607 Werder Bremen £141-£498 Wolfsburg £174-£450 Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tting-Premier-League-shame.html#ixzz2SBDFIZBu
It would be nice to have some of them prices We would definitely sell out our season ticket allocation even with a larger ground
With the TV revenues fairly dwarfing gate receipts, it should be a no brainer except for the supply and demand principle that engulfs everything.
thanks for the list nines, the prices in this country are too much who would pay 2k for a season ticket at Arsenal
I went to the pre-season game in Augsburg last July. 15 euro to get in, lovely 30,000 all seater stadium on the edge of town, loads of parking, tram from the town centre, beer and food easy to get, toilets spotless. You could even bring a beer to your seat in a plastic cup. Everything about the match day experience was much better.
We posted about German prices recently, the average is around 15 Euros and it includes transport in the town the match is taking place in. The Premier League was founded on and glorifies greed and the true fan is ripped-off in the extreme, nowhere is this clearer than at Wembley where the match-day experience of the National Stadium is one of being herded and fleeced. Just look at the two teams going to the Cup Final who are paying extortionate prices and forced to travel at ridiculous times with no guarantee of getting home on the day if it goes to extra time. Money, in this case TV money, rules everything in our country and the supporter is barely an afterthought who is treated with contempt...
I know it's not gonna happen but wouldn't it be refreshing and ground breaking if TF went along the same strategy with ticket pricing as Bayern, when we do eventually get our new stadium. Would be a really good way to promote the QPR brand......I can but dream...
I'd be happy if we matched West Brom's premiership prices and offered an early bird £100+ off extra. Watching football in London is a rip off.
Really interesting post...if we did get a bigger stadium...and had, say 20,000 season tickets available (potentially unrealistic but we can dream), I don't see what's to lose by adopting the German philosophy on ticket pricing. Although we wouldn't make as much of a profit on each ticket, surely we would sell thousands more than we do at present. I know for myself, I've not got a season ticket in the past because I knew that because of work I'd have to miss four or five games, which equates to a lot of money. If the season ticket was only £100-£200 I would happily get one knowing I'd miss a few games. Cheap prices would make them more attainable, but less precious.
Spot on Fing. I did it years ago and the whole experience was immeasurably more enjoyable. Very preffesional and geared towards entertaining the fans. I enjoyed it totally and found myself buy programmes, food & the odd souvenir. We could go down the Aussie route, where all busses & trains are free to anyone attending a game. Kida are generally free & plenty of spare/free tickets around. I used to take my 2 kids every other week & only ever paid for them to get in twice. Still spent a small fortune on t-shirts, caps, footy tops etc! Very safe and family orientated. Unless, Only place to avoid was "The Den", the terrace behind the home goal and home of "The River City Crew"!!....What a bunch of clowns
I might be wrong but i think the Germans already do free transport to the stadium included in the match ticket. Great idea and something we here could pick up on for the more out of town stadiums.
Nice prices indeed. However it makes me think, that where do they get their money from? Bayern Munich have two,three or even four times cheaper season tickets than top english clubs and still they are able to sign players as expensive as Javi Martinez, Robben and many more? I dont remember whom they are after for the future season but they were ready to spend over 30 million pounds for him. Have to say germans are more clever with the money.
Read my sig! Bayern dwarf every club on the planet when it comes to commercial revenue, that is where they make their money Queens please log in to view this image And if you have three-four spare hours then this is a good read http://swissramble.blogspot.no/search/label/Bayern%20Munich
Then again if the sum is between 104 pounds or 950 pounds the difference is bit more. Maybe germans just argue for fifteen minutes about it in the tranfer discussion? Im sure theres something else in it. Bayern will be the No 2 in the costliest teamlist in the world after summer. I dont think that is possible just with the cheapier season or matchtickets.....
TF did say he wanted tickets to be affordable and wanted us to be more like this in the new stadium, wed fill 40k even in the NPC if STs were £150.
