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Is Harry the Right Man?

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  1. stick

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  2. Aims

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    I think for the meantime to stick with Harry, Yes some of his decisions may be questionable but to be fair look at the state we were in when he took over! Had he been there at the start of the season maybe things could have been somewhat different.. He could have gave them money grabbing glory players QPR had at the minute a good bollocking from the start!
     
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  3. Flyer

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    Mackie, Hill and Taarabt, trouble is I can only name 3 and thats precisely the reason why were down. Too many players swanning about picking up their wages while not contributing.
     
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  4. Aims

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    It makes me laugh really. What good do those players think thats going to do? Yeah they are getting money, but when the contracts out who is going to want the useless money grabbers?
     
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  5. SW Ranger

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    You can't build a nucleus of a team around Hill, Derry, Mackie and Tarrabt.
    Harry needs to stay. His record is more positive than negative, so we need stability from Harry and his staff.
    As for the team, well... it's going to be released players, new signings and some loanees.
    Definite need for string leadership now - so,time for Harry and Co. to take a firm hold of this squad.
     
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  6. QPR999

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    No. And neither is this squad of players.

    Clear the lot of them out and re-build from scratch. I don't care if it takes three to four years. Let's re-build our Rangers with a common football philosophy from top to bottom with fresh and hungry players who are proud to be playing for our club.
    Otherwise we will never shake this disease that has permeated throughout our club this past two seasons.
    Our club needs an exorcism, now.
     
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  7. BrixtonR

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    Very true - though somewhat unpalatable for that part of us that demands instant gratification. Instant - two years down the line? Well... you know what I mean!
     
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  8. Sooperhoop

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    I think Harry has said all the right things since taking over but, deep down, he knew we were f*cked from day one. There was never any chance of putting us right in January and I think there will be a mass exodus this summer including some of the 'stalwarts' who are now too old to be considered for the PL in future. Harry will want to go all-out for promotion next season and he'll try his best to keep Samba and Remy, although I'd bet my mortgage Remy turns up at Arsenal next season...
     
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  9. DaveThomas

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    No he is full of bullshit

    If they are divisions then get them out
    Get this talented squad playing as a team and you will all be cheering them
     
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  10. devonqprboy

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    YES. Lets hope we can off load, pay off some of the current layabouts so Harry can get some real players in.
     
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    This (I think!!).
     
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    I dont understand why so many are getting on HR's back really.

    Im sure when he came in he was the choice most wanted and yet a few months later people want him out. Stability is needed as much as possible in terms of those managing the club. What could HR really do with this squad.

    This team will never play as a team. The problems are too deep rooted. Anyone thinking otherwise isnt looking at the full picture imo. They have had a season, two managers and they still cant do it.
     
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  13. DaveThomas

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    The man has somehow moved the entire responsibility onto anyone sart from himself ... He draws on his past successes without referencing his failures ... He is Harold the new Brian Clough of the media ... Question his tactics etc it gets brushed under the carpet ... IMO a young euro manager would get these players playing together ... The whole of QPR as a club stinks at this moment in time we have all collectively failed .. Yet the message from that fool is its nothing to do with me .... It won't be easy etc
    Are these players good enough
    The club is referred to as they or them

    As for TF tweeting about the success if Caterham cars and how long it has taken to build what ? ....is he ill?

    Thank **** for summer. The Med and France
     
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  14. Carlos Valderama's Hairy Saddlebags

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    I do not think HR is the right man to get us back up. Think he is out of touch with Championship life and the sort of players that we need in the division.

    That said, getting rid of him and getting yet another new manager would do more damage. Just my two cents
     
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  15. No Kane No Gain

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    The most important thing is how Fernandez reacts, he had no real choice but to give 'Arry full control of transfers in January but he needs to get someone in to look for the longer term in transfers, that's how you've got to progress now you've seen how investing a lot of money in older players looking for a comfortable retirement doesn't mix with a team that needs to battle for points. He also needs to treat the money he's spent as gone, if you try and spend your way out when you're down in a casino you're almost certainly going to make it worse, the best way to see any value back from from what you've spent/lost is to learn your lessons and football's the same. He needs to be prepared to get rid of as many of the older players that haven't contributed well enough as he can and see if he can get any kind of value back on the likes of Granero and Hoilett and inevitably the likes of Samba, Remy, Mbia, Taraabt and Cesar will probably want out and have clauses.

    On the face of it I can't see why 'Arry couldn't get in a few players to cover some of the players leaving and lead you back up in 2 seasons, if not 1. The lessons to learn though are clearly to be more patient for progress trying to buy your way up is dangerous, West Ham should know, they've done it a few times and gone back down again after a couple of seasons but here they are, trying it again. The main concern you should have with 'Arry, is the same that we had with him, his loyalty. I don't think it's intentional but he's prone to having his head turned and at this stage in his career I don't think he's got any real interest in building a project at QPR and playing the long game, the first sign of interest from a team in the Premier League next season and I think he'll be off. You just need a Director of Football or a chief scout that can sign you younger players and make decisions for the future, if 'Arry leaves you still have continuity. Levy did similar and surrounded himself with plenty of other voices than 'Arry's which meant we didn't keep signing Palacios', Crouches, Keanes and Bassongs that Redknapp spent a lot of money on and decided he didn't want less than 18 months later.
     
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  16. sb_73

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    Very perceptive post. Just leads me to think, lets get rid now, get the young European coach in and surround him with experience.
    What's the feeling re AVB?
     
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  17. finglasqpr

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    From the outset, I want to say that I really like Harry.

    If he thinks he had a big job on his hands this year, he has an even bigger job next year. This squad needs major surgery!!!

    I tend to agree with 999's. Regarding players, have a big clear out and build from scratch. The only difference is I would like to see Harry given a year to get us back up. If he achieves that, fine. If not, get rid then.
     
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  18. sb_73

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    Story on Sky Sports news where he says he didn't have enough time, and it wasn't his squad because he didn't have the summer.

    If he really believed this he would not have accepted the job.........cash, ego, self delusion. Fact is, he knew, like the rest of us that this group of players should have been easily capable of mid table. He, like Hughes, failed to turn them into a team.
     
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    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't argue with that SB.

    The question is, does he deserve to go now due to his failures or would it be more beneficial to the club (in terms of the upheaval another change in Manager would bring) to keep him and give him another year? I don't think changing Manager now would do us much good and therefore would like to see him given another year.
     
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  20. IwasanotherwatfordR

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    I have my own small business and dealing with the staff is just about as challenging as my daily work pressures get. Staff are always finding reasons to squabble, bitch or back-bite. Having said that, it occurs to me that the team Harry has had to manage does not contain females, so presumably it ought to have been far simpler for him to manage than my daily efforts are in trying to be the office Henry Kissenger. Sorry (Beth) for any apparent chauvinistic view here but it is my own observational experience.
     
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