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  1. Jürgenmeiʃter

    Jürgenmeiʃter Top top top top top flirt

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    http://www1.skysports.com/football/...t-slams-hypocrisy-in-criticism-of-Luis-Suarez

    Well said Gus




    Gus Poyet has hit out at the exaggerated reaction to Luis Suarez's bite on Branislav Ivanovic and is not sure whether the Liverpool striker will stay in the Premier League.

    Suarez has been charged with violent conduct by the Football Association after biting Ivanovic in Sunday's game against Chelsea, while Liverpool have fined the player but insisted he will not be sold.

    Brighton & Hove Albion manager Poyet admits there is no defence for what his fellow Uruguayan did but believes the criticism has been too harsh, especially after Suarez issued a swift apology.

    "We exaggerate too much," Poyet told The Times. "Luis knows what he has done, he knows he shouldn't do it and it would be better for him, of course, not to have any more issues this year.

    "He tried to bite someone in the arm; no harm, really. A little pain. But if a player goes over the top and tries to break a leg? That's good because we are strong and we like the tackle."
    Gus Poyet

    "There are players who have done terrible things and apologised after two minutes and have been portrayed as a hero for apologising quickly.

    "Luis Suarez apologises immediately and nobody believes the apology. It's sad. Are they living their personal lives by the same rules? I don't like that. There is plenty of hypocrisy in football now.

    "He tried to bite someone in the arm; no harm, really. A little pain. But if a player goes over the top and tries to break a leg? That's good because we are strong and we like the tackle.

    "That's where we are in England. I know where I am living, and I adapt and I live with it."

    Poyet could understand why Suarez might consider moving to a different country if he becomes too unpopular.

    "Do you want him in England? Yes or no? If everybody is against him, he will leave."
    Gus Poyet

    He added: "Do you want him in England? Yes or no? If everybody is against him, he will leave. I know him quite well. I don't know how he is managed, so I can't comment on that.

    "It's difficult to have Luis playing at that level with a different character. You need to play the whole package and manage him the best way you can and get the best out of him without any other issues.

    "You need to be with him daily and know where he is and in which country he is playing football. It is not just about the 90 minutes we see. I think right now the mental side of football is the most important part."

    Poyet accepts that the way Suarez plays his football will divide opinion, but believes he is often misunderstood by English audiences.

    "They think they know the reasons why he plays how he plays," Poyet explained. "He learnt to play in a certain way and he will do everything possible to win a football match; sometimes too much. He knows that better than you and me.

    "Some people like him, some people don't. If he plays for your team, you will probably like him and if he plays against your team, more people will hate him
     
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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Good to see some support - and he speaks a lot of sense.
     
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  3. Jonesey

    Jonesey Well-Known Member

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    Well said Gus <ok>
     
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  4. Sir_Red

    Sir_Red Well-Known Member

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    Great to hear this from a non Liverpool fan/pundit, and that not everyone is a moron. Speaks a lot of sense
     
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  5. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    This is true, what Suarez has done is wrong but the media will make more of it because of who it is. However Suarez has put himself in this position and he needs to deal with it as do we if he is to remain a Liverpool player.
     
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  6. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Stupid comments. The pain element is only so relevant, I.e spitting. Spitting doesn't hurt but is inexcusable. Once again poyet just sticking up for his countryman, not the first time either.
     
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  7. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    I agree he is just sticking up for his countryman but he does have a valid point in some of what he is saying, there is no excuse for what Suarez did he simply should not have done it. However the reaction to Suarez doing this is greater than it would be for another player, again this is partly his own fault but does not mean that he deserves to be treated differently to other players because of past mistakes.
     
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  8. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    No one is excusing Luis's behaviour. He and many other LFC fans are just concerned with the level of publicity and media criticism this has attracted.
     
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  9. Constcrepe

    Constcrepe Active Member

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    He is not speaking from a neutral perspective and considering he's defended Suarez before it's not that not surprising he's come out with such comments.
     
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  10. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    See above from me and Jimmy.
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I agree that this is just poyet sticking his Uruguayan beak in. its not impartial therefore is not really worth listening too.
     
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  12. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Playing Devil's Advocate here but does that not also apply to the majority of journos and pundits when they comment upon this issue?
     
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  13. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    It makes a change from the national condemnation without any real thought behind said articles. "Sack Luis Suarez" or "LFC not doing enough".
     
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  14. Sir_Red

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    the guardian already up to 19 articles on Suarez,, 19 ffs!! scum rag now, absolute tripe.
     
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  15. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    To be fair, if Suarez felt he couldn't stay in England it's only his fault.
     
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  16. Muppetfinder General

    Muppetfinder General Well-Known Member

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    Amen. I've said it too. Biting is violent conduct but if it doesn't pierce the skin then the level is lower than, say, Huth's studmarks being left in Suarez's chest. But tackling is part of the game so it's not worthy of sacking demands. And stamping counts as tackling, or something.

    As I believe I said yesterday, if Ghana had been Germany, Suarez would be an English national hero.The newspapers really need to start sacking these hypocritical, kneejerk journos who embarrass them like that. They're bad role models.
     
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  17. He is a Uruguay fan though...<whistle>


    I think it is the fact its a bite more than anything (other than it being Suarez). I'd rather someone bit me then punch, elbow, stamp, etc
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    indeed which is why i've not read any! <laugh>

    I saw what i needed to see.

    i get the points all are making about it not being a leg breaker, but its ignorant as sin and we all i think know it. mangy in fact.... you can't really say otherwise. Its like i said diouf was just as unlikeable or even more so but it was easy to get shut of that scumbag cos he only scored 2 in 22 or something. we are i think looking at a 30 goal player and losing sight of the ignorance of the offence.

    He should have got sent off, the fa say the ref didn't see it but it has to be in his report seeing the ref will at least have seen the post match stuff and ivanovic's complaint so the FA must take action. I think 3 or 6 match would have happened in either event
     
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  19. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    so you're taking his stance over the common sense he has put forward are you, what he says is wrong cos he comes from the same country?

    You are a massive douche, go back to the yernited board "to talk about what we are talking" about you fool

    the chav and the manc didn't take on any point Gus made funnily enough for fear of getting torn apart for going against common sense<ok>
     
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  20. StJohn_Red_Legend

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    Fair point, the ref probably should have sent him off. But did the ref really not see the incident? I find this quite hard to believe, given the detailed pictures of Ivanovic showing him the 'bite marks' and demonstrating to the ref that he'd been bitten. If so, is the FA simply reacting to the public pressure and re-writing the rulebook? Because, as I understand it, if he has said that he's seen the incident in his match report, then that should be (rightly or wrongly) case closed.

    As for the punishment, I'm interested to see what they'll come up with - I imagine they'll come up with more than 3 matches (standard Violent Conduct ban) and it will be interesting to see how it is justified.

    I can also see Gus's point tho, some players go into challenges wildly and can end a career, some even admit it (or claim to have done it deliberately) in their autobiographies and they don't get the opprobrium they deserve for it...
     
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