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What Ban will Luis get from the Fergie Association

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by DayDoDoeDontDayDoe, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    this is not true.

    Sorry but lets be fair here, joey barton is a thug and he got what was coming to him on "form" did he not? consistent repeat offenders should get punished more.

    suarez had got a warning on future conduct, 8 matches, stuck a finger up at wigan fans (rightly) got a match, got suspended for many yellows on a couple of occasions... I think that the FA will look t this and have to give at least 6 games.

    I mean the guy that pushed a ref and is now a manager in the prem ;) got 6 games....

    If they make it a 6 month ban or something of that effect they are going too far but if they make it 6- 10 games i FAIL UTTERLY to see how anyone can be surprised, shocked or feel victimised in any way.

    The guy is a dirty so and so and like any rabid animla needs dealing with. just watch the clip again before commenting. it's ugly and merits special attention.
     
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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    There was an article in one of the newspapers written by an ex FA Compliance Officer and he explained some of the rules and thought process behind the punishment.

    Suarez is charged with violent conduct and only previous similar incidents will only be taken into consideration i.e. Suarez hasn't been in trouble before for violent conduct. He stuck his finger up at Fulham fans and the racial abuse of Evra - both of these are not violent conduct and will not be taken into consideration. In addition, the bite in Holland will also be dismissed as it did not happen in England.

    Technically, he should only get 3 match ban but this is a bizarre incident and I suspect he will be banned for 6 matches. Serves 4 games this season and then 2 the next is alright.
     
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  3. powermac

    powermac Member

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    how much fines should he get from liverpool fc .
    May be he want to donate all to me .
     
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  4. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    He is not a repeat offender as far as violent conduct is concerned. I think 4-8 games would be reasonable so we're not far apart there.

    If I were a footballer I would be shocked by this but I would be more concerned with career-ending assaults being given special attention.
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I know what you are saying. I just think that even if its not violent conduct he's got enough hanging over him form the season alone let alone adding history too it.

    Its like balotelli. he got bigger and bigger suspensions cos he wouldn't learn. maybe suarez will get the same.

    I think it's got to be 6 minimum. the FA have signalled this suarez has til tonight?? to appeal. he should plead guilty and get on with it.
     
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  6. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    That shouldn't happen and if it did, it would be a case of the FA making their own rules up again.

    Suarez has not been in trouble for violent conduct since he came to England. Therefore, this is the first incident - all other aspects should be disregarded.
     
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  7. tommynewberry

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    Technically speaking the FA should not be allowed to hold previous suspensions against him because as stated above neither of them were for violent conduct in this country. Of course we are talking about the FA here and they generally make this stuff up as they go along. Don't get me wrong I fully expect him to get at least 6 games but I think anything more than that would be too harsh considering 6 is already double that of the normal violent conduct ban. I dont think many Liverpool fans would object to a 6 game ban but if the FA give anything like some idiots are demanding like 10-15 games or more then we would be fully justified in feeling aggrieved.
     
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  8. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Agree 6 games and a strong warning should suffice
     
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  9. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Agreed - 6 games is enough. 4 this season and 2 next season <ok>
     
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  10. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    Also think Liverpool should have banned him till end of the season rather than the weak fine and hillsbrough donation, especially with season practically over.
     
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  11. Constcrepe

    Constcrepe Active Member

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    I'll be shocked if he gets more than a 6 match ban.
     
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  12. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Whatever we do is never going to be enough to appease everyone. Say we banned him for 4 games, the press/media would have said it's not enough etc etc.

    Suarez has apologised, the club has apologised, we fined him, and now we await the FA's punishment. And then we move on.

    We should not be bowing down to public pressure. Anyone suggesting that we should sell him should shove it IMO - those people (mainly referring to the media) should get off their high horses.
     
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  13. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    I was tempted to agree with you but I can understand why this has not been done. If LFC did ban him until the end of the season ( and nobody could argue that he doesn't deserve that) then the club could feel that it would leave the FA open to ban him for x number of games from the start of next season i.e. after the club's ban.
     
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  14. Constcrepe

    Constcrepe Active Member

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    Similar thing happened over Cantona.
     
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  15. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I'm in the 'Six Gang'. It'll be the rest of the season and a reminder at the start of next. Probably no bad thing - if he's still here <ok>
     
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    astro Well-Known Member

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    He only gets rested when he's banned.
     
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  17. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    Let's try and put this into perspective. Suarez bit somebody and did not break the skin no blood etc. And the player was able to continue in the game with no I'll effects. When my kids were about 3 years old they would bite and so do young puppies.

    So no body would condone biting and spitting..it is really really stupid. However compared to tackles that can break a players leg, or elbows that can smash into a players face..where exactly does Suarez childish biting rank?

    A ban sure but how long, that bloke that injured the mag players leg was an awful tackle how long did he get.

    I also want Suarez to play against Newcastle and score a hat-trick, so do appeal some can play in that match.
     
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  18. Neither here or there

    Neither here or there Active Member

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    6 Games ban but like others have said based on previous offences(none) it should be a 3 game ban. Lets just hope the FA are consistent going forward with similar offences(violent conduct).
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    they are consistent.

    The ref is god.... if a ref sees defoe bite maschernao and gives a yellow the god has spoken.

    If god is too busy being infallible then the FA as Jesus our savour steps in and delivers a scourging. any time the FA step in chances are the ban is worse.

    I cannot see how anyone thinks this is jsut a 3 match ban offense. Its a very ugly video to watch and honestly i think it merits action from the FA... while we might not agree with the refs being god and want to see some for of citing as per rugby that's not the system now
     
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  20. Constcrepe

    Constcrepe Active Member

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    As no injury happened, the fact that the club have taken action though quite limited imo, and also that he has apologised and admitted the offence; he may be banned for 6 matches if he takes up the PFA offer of anger management. Interesting about the Dutch incident though. While outside of England, could be introduced as bad character. Still would be surprised if more than 6 match ban and hefty fine.
     
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