Is Cisse a **** striker?

So, I hear a lot of people talk about how **** Cisse is because he has to miss 2/3 chances at least before he scores.

But recently, he has been scoring in most of his matches. He had a good goal disallowed vs Sunderland.

Since mid december, his goals/game ratio is around 1 in 2 in all competitions.

The reason strikers like Cisse get so much stick is because they constantly get themselves in good positions, ones which most strikers wouldn't get into.

So Cisse has done well to even get most of his chances that he misses.

However, if he has one of those games where he's basically a passenger, and gets one single chance, he usually puts it away.

So the guy isn't a player that's gonna get hat ricks, but he will score you 15-20 goals in a season.

However, I do see him scoring more than one goal in a game if we get him a strike partner. Ba and Cisse are two good strikers, but they couldn't play together. And Cisse is usually anonymous if up by himself.

Cisse could use a good partner to make space for him and feed him chances and support him.

If we got someone like Carroll, Cisse would have even more space to work with, and balls being dropped near for him to hit first time.

 

Nah he is a good striker. We need more attacking options. A Carroll type, a PEA type, Cisse and Campbell as the young 4th option is where we need to be. Cover all bases and give the manager the arsenal to change games. At present he has Shola......................

Cisse can play a lone role, can work off a Carroll type, can works with a PEA type in stretching teams. And of course you mix up those combos. We're too predictable at present with the options in the squad. Its why Ferguson never goes in with exactly the same types or less than 4 quality options. We have one of the worst options in the PL striker wise since Ba left.

 

Got to say I think he has become a scapegoat, among Newcastle fans. Seemed particularly noticeable after the 4-0 defeat at Man City.

 

Defo is a scapegoat. If you had more options and a more functional strike set up in terms of options, he would be doing his bit. As it stands, he either has a blinder every week or he is ****. Not on for me, lack of balanced opinion from the fans. Does need to stop being offside so often though

 

Cisse is an outstanding striker and if we had more options up front he'd certainly prove his worth, unfortunately much of his other work doesn't get a mention.


Arthur Scargill.......now there was a **** striker.

 

no

 

How can he be considered a scapegoat when he has been consistently ****e?

 

The reason Cisse has been not as good lately is due to pardews **** tactics IMO. We lump the ball upto him bypassingthe midfield constantly and he either doesn't win the header or when he does hold it up he's got no one within 20 yards of him, so he can't win...

Its ****ing ****e tactics and needs addressed ASAP its horrific watching so many technically gifted players llay hoofball constantly and it does my tits in.

If we stay up Pards gets 3 games next season to change it or he should go.

 

He was played out on the wing for half a season which didn't help, but his goals ratio in a **** second half is decent.

 

Goals win games but misses lose games, he misses far to many chances
It's a joke, the bloke is like a headless chicken with no thought process.
His in ability to stay on side is worse then in a under tens game.

However cisse on his day can be great and act like a real poacher and Maybe this season luck has gone against him.

He is good back up but Ashley dropped a bollock when he did not replace baa in jan like I said we would regret






QUOTE=Tash Heisenberg;4608985]So, I hear a lot of people talk about how **** Cisse is because he has to miss 2/3 chances at least before he scores.

But recently, he has been scoring in most of his matches. He had a good goal disallowed vs Sunderland.

Since mid december, his goals/game ratio is around 1 in 2 in all competitions.

The reason strikers like Cisse get so much stick is because they constantly get themselves in good positions, ones which most strikers wouldn't get into.

So Cisse has done well to even get most of his chances that he misses.

However, if he has one of those games where he's basically a passenger, and gets one single chance, he usually puts it away.

So the guy isn't a player that's gonna get hat ricks, but he will score you 15-20 goals in a season.

However, I do see him scoring more than one goal in a game if we get him a strike partner. Ba and Cisse are two good strikers, but they couldn't play together. And Cisse is usually anonymous if up by himself.

Cisse could use a good partner to make space for him and feed him chances and support him.

If we got someone like Carroll, Cisse would have even more space to work with, and balls being dropped near for him to hit first time.[/QUOTE]

 

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If he scored all the chances he had, he'd be a 40-50 goals a season striker.

Suarez, RVP and all of the best strikers miss chances. Cisse misses a lot of chances, but it's unrealistic to expect him to score them all.

 

He's scored 9 goals since playing as the central striker in the second half of the season, had two legit efforts ruled offside and had a further 3 'close calls' ruled out correctly.

I know he's wasted efforts.
I know he's caught offside way too often.

But he is a good player who is not getting the right support from an under performing team. It is not down to him being ****. In our last 10 matches we've only scored 2 goals from other players. If the team were playing well, goals would come from other areas - such as set plays!

Cisse has been frustrating at times, but he is the best striker we have. If he played alongside an effective target man I think he would thrive far more.

 

Exactly, way too much onus on him due o the lack of strike options and midfielders not chipping in.

 

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I don't know if you go to games, watch them online/TV or are not able to go but regardless to say Cisse is a headless chicken etc is so untrue it defies belief.

Cisse is a class striker. He scores goals and like every striker misses chances and goes through lean periods. To expect any striker to score every chance every game is unrealistic.

Cisse's scoring record last year was absolutely brilliant and was never going to be maintained. His scoring record for the second half of this season has been good to very good. I am ignoring the first half of the season on the basis that he was being played out of position and not surprisingly his confidence was affected. Message to Pardew - Cisse is not a winger.

His overall game is decent without being brilliant but good enough in any event given his goal scoring.

Andy Cole was a great goal scorer but was ruined when he went to Man Utd when Ferguson tried to make him a more rounded player. The hardest thing to do in football is to score goals. Therefore, when you have a player who can do that don't mess on with him and just make sure the team plays to maximise the chances created for the goal scorer. That is what we should be doing with Cisse.

Football is a very simple game. All you have to do is score more goals than the other team to win. Cisse can do that for us.

Sorry but it has been grating me for ages the way so many fans have been having a go at Cisse, unfairly in my view when so many other players are performing at 50%.

 

[sorry chap but cisse has been pony fact


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I don't know if you go to games, watch them online/TV or are not able to go but regardless to say Cisse is a headless chicken etc is so untrue it defies belief.

Cisse is a class striker. He scores goals and like every striker misses chances and goes through lean periods. To expect any striker to score every chance every game is unrealistic.

Cisse's scoring record last year was absolutely brilliant and was never going to be maintained. His scoring record for the second half of this season has been good to very good. I am ignoring the first half of the season on the basis that he was being played out of position and not surprisingly his confidence was affected. Message to Pardew - Cisse is not a winger.

His overall game is decent without being brilliant but good enough in any event given his goal scoring.

Andy Cole was a great goal scorer but was ruined when he went to Man Utd when Ferguson tried to make him a more rounded player. The hardest thing to do in football is to score goals. Therefore, when you have a player who can do that don't mess on with him and just make sure the team plays to maximise the chances created for the goal scorer. That is what we should be doing with Cisse.

Football is a very simple game. All you have to do is score more goals than the other team to win. Cisse can do that for us.

Sorry but it has been grating me for ages the way so many fans have been having a go at Cisse, unfairly in my view when so many other players are performing at 50%.[/QUOTE]

 

How many times has he been caught off side recently ????!

He Has missed at least two sitters per game since January

One thing I would defend him is pardew formation and personnel does not help him and he seeks isolated on his own which also wastes the presence of sissoko as he needs to stop back into the middle of the park






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I don't know if you go to games, watch them online/TV or are not able to go but regardless to say Cisse is a headless chicken etc is so untrue it defies belief.

Cisse is a class striker. He scores goals and like every striker misses chances and goes through lean periods. To expect any striker to score every chance every game is unrealistic.

Cisse's scoring record last year was absolutely brilliant and was never going to be maintained. His scoring record for the second half of this season has been good to very good. I am ignoring the first half of the season on the basis that he was being played out of position and not surprisingly his confidence was affected. Message to Pardew - Cisse is not a winger.

His overall game is decent without being brilliant but good enough in any event given his goal scoring.

Andy Cole was a great goal scorer but was ruined when he went to Man Utd when Ferguson tried to make him a more rounded player. The hardest thing to do in football is to score goals. Therefore, when you have a player who can do that don't mess on with him and just make sure the team plays to maximise the chances created for the goal scorer. That is what we should be doing with Cisse.

Football is a very simple game. All you have to do is score more goals than the other team to win. Cisse can do that for us.

Sorry but it has been grating me for ages the way so many fans have been having a go at Cisse, unfairly in my view when so many other players are performing at 50%.[/QUOTE]

 

If he has been pony please tell me how many goals he has and his goal ratio since he came.

Could do with one or two more ponies on that basis. FACT.

 

Yes Cisse needs to be more clinical with his finishing but Pardew has to take a lot of blame by destroying the lad's confidence early on the season just to appease that selfish bastard Demba Ba. Also he has no one up front with him and when he does its that useless piece of wretched **** Shola.

 

He's not **** - No!

 

He is not **** but he is playing with **** and **** tactics.The reason he is offside so much is down to the fact the bell ends he plays with do not give him the right pass at the right time.Think of him with a Peter Beardsley,Scott Sellars and a Rob lee in the team they would make him 30 goals a season no bother.Then we have Cabaye on paper our best footballer but where is he deployed in front of the back 4 sitting deep.......Give me ****ing strength.