Vin just offered Fran a "cure" for her league table pontification based OCD - put £100 on Saints getting relegated at 125/1 so that the £12500 winnings offset the natural suicidal tendencies that accompany relegation. Of course, this is a very specific bet on straight relegation but I know that some on here often back against us with this very tonic in mind. Let's say you've done a daft accumulator that if it came in, would see us relegated (not that you'd have had that in mind when placing the bet of course), just how big would the winnings need to become for you to stop regarding them as a tonic and actually start wishing relegation on your own team? Would £10k do it for you? £50k? 100k? EDIT: I forgot to post this last night and have just realised that Joe posed this very question.
Would always depend on your finances. If you were really on your uppers, it would take far less money than for someone in a comfortable job with no mortgage. A family member is having a bad time at the moment....10K wouldn't tempt me, but 100K might. I feel so dirty
I NEVER bet against Saints and couldn't bring myself to put money on us doing something drastic like getting relegated, no matter what the reward. I can bring myself to make an objective prediction but not a bet like that.
Couldn't do it. Because betting on something you don't want to happen is bound to make it happen. I know there's no logic to that but I would feel guilty that I'd benefited by Saints' downfall.
Would also depend where we were in the league at the time. If I was a QPR fan and got some decent odds, I'd be piling the cash on and rubbing my hands with glee - hoping to lose every last game, which would be preferable to me than seeing them win the next three or four but not being able to catch up with the pack regardless. But in Saints' position, I am not sure whatit might be. I echo FLT's stance, that I'm not sure I could do it for personal gain. At the same time, Fran is also right, in that it depends on your own financial position. Let's say that it would have to be enough to benefit a wider sphere than just youself - so to eliminate the guilt: maybe enough to help a community or charity in some significant way, so we're talking millions here.
Well if we go down, I'll get £750. I still don't want us to go down by any stretch, but it'd ease the pain.
It's one of the reasons why I can't be a pro gambler. I would always let my heart rule my head when it comes to Saints, Hampshire and England!
No worries. I still haven't come up with an answer, but I know it would have to be enough money to last me a whole year while significantly improving my daily life. Perhaps enough to buy me a season ticket and trip around the world during the off-season. And a new Fender Telecaster.
I put a decent bet on finishing in the top 10 at the start of the season. It looked hopeless for a while, although I never stopped believing, but now, fingers crossed.
If funds aren't a problem in this hypothetical exercise, don't buy a new Telecaster. Instead try and get hold of a vintage pre-CBS Tele, when Fender were an independent company and made electric guitars the like of which have never been rivalled. The modern Fenders aren't substantially better than the Squier copy, just cost more.
My first guitar was a Squier Strat, and it's definitely a lot better than its price lets on. But I've played a friend's Fender Blacktop Tele and it's a great deal nicer. I don't think I need to shell out on a vintage guitar when a 2010 model sounds that good.
I just love beautiful guitars and the Jaguar is downright rude, certainly ruder than my own Aria Pro II but not as rude as anything made by one of my friend's companies http://www.gouldingguitars.com/ They take beauty to a different level.
It's just wood and wires. You could get someone to hand-wind some alnico pickups to exact 1963 Telecaster specs and put it in a custom body made out of the same wood etc. for $2000, if you are really that anal about it. And none of us would sound any better than we would on a Squire probably. Actually the biggest problem would be that no one could find 1963 specs, because there weren't any. They just slapped together whatever they had. I made a "vintage" fuzz face the other day for $25. They rip you off now for the old germanium transistors, they cost about $10. The rest of the electronics in that pedal are less than $1. The other $14 was actually for jacks and knobs and things like that which have no impact on the sound. I think it took me about 3 hours to put together.
Mmmmm.... One thing you can always guarantee on this board is that someone will come on with a greater knowledge of whatever subject is being discussed than your own. I can build an acoustic guitar, but my knowledge of electronics is minimal, so I would struggle to wire in a pickup. I can only bow to your greater experience!
Nah, it's actually dead simple to build effects or rewire pickups so you can change switching or whatever. There are tons of sites on the internet to show you how and it's almost never more complicated than "this wire goes here, that one goes there" or "take this part out, replace with this part." You don't need to know any electronics at all really. You just have to know how to solder, and the first guitar I rewired I didn't even know how to do that. I learned on the job. After you build a couple of pedals or re-wire a couple of guitars you see how simple it really is and how few parts are involved and it just blows up any of the mystique surrounding that equipment. It's way harder to build an acoustic guitar. You need to have understanding of acoustics and the properties of woods and such. And it takes a good deal of skill and artistry to actually put everything together. The workmanship matters a great deal whereas for electronics stuff as long as you connect stuff properly there are no problems. Amps are tricky. They can sound terrible and you could kill yourself. The electronics in guitars and effects pedals are nothing. Anyway, I'm pretty confident in the Saints front office and the future and I don't think getting relegated would be such a big deal. If I had $1000 on a bet or something, I could take the winnings and fly to the UK and actually see Saints play. That would be kind of worth it. If Saints were in more of a QPR position it would be a much tougher call. Would definitely root for relegation ONCE for $10k. Not sure how much lower I'd go, too painful to think about.
