Don't be a daft lad, I knew exactly what point you were making and know full we'll your not a Man United fan. I was making a completely different point all together.
First off, what has rugby league got to do with it? It's a minority sport played in only a small part of the country, Wigan Athletic play our national sport in the worlds best league, hardly a fair or relevant comparison. Which ever way you dress it up sub 15,000 crowds look poor in the top flight. Fair enough it's not a big place but Burnley used to get 20,000+ and they have a population of only 60,000. I completely agree that we should be more embarrassed about the size of our crowds, but that's another topic completely and has been discussed to death on here in the past.
May already have been said, but.maybe the club should introduce a priority system for fans who had a ST in this season, so we dont miss out on away tickets. May not work, but why should we miss big games in exchange for the 'seasoned' fans who want to get a picture of Rooney. Bring it up at the FLAG maybe?
Not sure why everyone's getting eat up, that superb, forward thinking, entrepreneurial council lead by that brilliant mind will already have the plans prepared, material secured and business plan to increase the KC stadiums capacity. Thank Thatcher for privatisation and that massive windfall to our wonderful city
If you live and work away it is sometimes easier to get a ticket than if you are in Hull. It shouldn't be but the fact is it is.
I went down earlier to renew, was supposed to go on Saturday but never got around to it... I was waiting an hour and half from like 3:30pm to 5pm. Some people around me just wanted Barnsley tickets, some were after renewing and a few were after Challenge Cup tickets... minority sport and all that
There should definitely be a priority system for previous season ticket holders or frequent buyers when buying limited amounts of tickets (away matches) Having said that, some people are just straight complaining about more fans coming to support the team. What is wrong with that? All this bandwagon talk is nothing but fans wanting to feel superior to other fans.
Lots of people leave it to last minute, I always do but must admit was panicking when I couldn't get through today. However for those of you like me that has not sorted it yet, the deadline has been extended to 12 noon Friday.
I went down earlier to renew, was supposed to go on Saturday but never got around to it... I was waiting an hour and half from like 3:30pm to 5pm. Some people around me just wanted Barnsley tickets, some were after renewing and a few were after Challenge Cup tickets... minority sport and all that
We moan when the crowds aren't big enough and then when we get the extra fans wanting to join the band wagon we moan again. Were a strange lot aren't we
I got my renewal form and returned it next day , very simple process no queue Somebody holding everybody up deciding if they wanted to sit in the west upper or the south would piss me off quite a lot
I mentioned rugby, and I know this is irrelevant really, but Wigan is another place described as a rugby league town, but one where given equal circumstances, being in the top flight, get larger crowds. If we had a similar proportion of the population going we would have crowds of over 40,000 and we have the advantage of all those people in the East Riding who cone and support city. I can't see many living as far way from Wigan as Bridlington and Goole are from Hull travelling to watch them. Burnley always had the largest proportion of the population watching them. Recently Middlesbrough did. The least is probably Rotherham. Leeds United also have a very poor percentage of the locals watching them, especially when you look at the size of Leeds and there being only one club in the country's third largest city.
I mentioned rugby, and I know this is irrelevant really, but Wigan is another place described as a rugby league town, but one where given equal circumstances, being in the top flight, the football club get larger crowds despite the rugby club being successful unlike our rugby clubs. If we had a similar proportion of the population going we would have crowds of over 40,000 and we have the advantage of all those people in the East Riding who cone and support city. I can't see many living as far way from Wigan as Bridlington and Goole are from Hull travelling to watch them. Burnley always had the largest proportion of the population watching them. Recently Middlesbrough did. The least is probably Rotherham. Leeds United also have a very poor percentage of the locals watching them, especially when you look at the size of Leeds and there being only one club in the country's third largest city.
Bit like Hull though isn't it? If Wigan got relegated and didn't come straight back then you'd have 12-14,000 max - if they wen;t down to the third tier than it would be down to 8,000 max. L**ds are a poor side, and people are losing faith but if you put that club with an upward mentality back in the prem then it would be in excess of 30,000. We would get 30,000 if we qualified for Europe or flirted with winning something, We'd probably get 30,000 next season for top 6 home games assuming we get promoted and that number of tickets were made available for the right price on the day. What is shocking though is L**ds past history and the fact they are now struggling for crowds. Also if you put us in a cup final like Wigan I think we'd be capable of attracting more than they will get for their relegation fight with being the talk of the moment in that area currently. We have huge potential but have had two seasons in the premier league in our history - both of them culminating in ugly scraps for survival, one of which we lost. If we can establish ourselves and periodically go on cup-run or challenge the top 10 - semi regularly beating top 10 sides at home I think 32,000 average gate is not beyond the potential of our regional marketplace. If for the next 10 years we are as well run as the last 10 years and make 1/2 the progress then there is nothing to say we can;t be a regular top-flight fixture and challenge for some of the lesser prizes - and with bigger crowds than Wigan to boot.
One thing we need to do as fans is really start getting behind the team and generating a really loud atmosphere. Could prove a huge bonus when trying to get players to come here if the ground gets renowned for it's noise, will also generate some media **** material and positive publicity.
Agree with this too - but for some reason, it never seems to be a problem away from home. Reckon stadium design is half the problem - looks lovely on T.V. and in the ground is visually striking with no bad views from any seat. Doesn't reverberate noise though. Other half of the problem is that of those who are likely to sing - half distance themselves from the kids in the N.E. corner who like to bait the away fans, so are dispersed all along the East and into the south stands. Get the singing element plumb centre of the east and we'd have a better atmosphere as more would join in if it was of a (slightly) less confrontational nature and the noise would fill the stadium better than having the main singing section in the corner. Taking if further - if all of the singers congregated in the west upper and made the most of the accoustic potential (only have to sit below the away section at St James' to know how that works....) - the noise would dominate the entire ground. Make the East the Prawn sandwich stand instead..... ....now, wouldn't that be controversial?!!!!!!
Anyone who buys a ticket for Hull City can go and watch Hull City, they don't have to pass a 'proper fan' test first. The only way you can guarantee everyone a ticket, is to have a ground bigger than you need, so there's always spare seats. Outside of this, there's always going to be some people who miss out, it's life, there's no point in moaning about it.