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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Jobboshinpad, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. Jobboshinpad

    Jobboshinpad Active Member

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    Hey, I just threw it out there. It's a thread based on a question not a statement.

    As for my thoughts, then I'll share. The impression I had of 'Our' protest was that its context was broadened to encompass football policing in general. Events like today don't help do they?

    The police will use such instances to justify their decisions and I'm afraid that despite the partial boycott of Huddersfield its done very little good with violence elsewhere undermining a very justifiable complaint.

    On the Ps. Comment the handcuffs are always off on here ;)
     
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  2. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    One club's fans cause trouble at one game means all fans will cause problems at all games?

    Sounds like the Police Federation's unwritten rule that has enabled them to build their conservatories, buy their second homes and enjoy exotic holidays all courtesy of the impotent taxpayer.
     
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  3. Jobboshinpad

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    Agree, although like the majority we've only seen the footage on the news of a clown punching a police horse, then a bunch being blockaded at the railway station entrance. Eh they might just have been keen to catch the last train to Whitley bay?

    It's not helpful is it? The police has an organisation don't use common sense and will happily stick these instances in the bag of excuses / explanations?

    Looked like a great game, quality goals and Di Canio's is pure box office!
     
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  4. Jobboshinpad

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    Agree, although like the majority we've only seen the footage on the news of a clown punching a police horse, then a bunch being blockaded at the railway station entrance. Eh they might just have been keen to catch the last train to Whitley bay?

    It's not helpful is it? The police as an organisation don't use common sense and will happily stick these instances in the bag of excuses / explanations?

    Looked like a great game, quality goals and Di Canio's is pure box office!
     
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  5. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Got to say this weekend has completely undermined our protest, and on the back of it we will now have achieved very little. Our protest was supposed to represent the football audience as a whole which is why fans of all clubs were encouraged to come along. The fact that so soon after extreme hooliganism can break out in not one but two games on the same weekend suggests football still has its problems and justifies the police using heavy handed approaches when they deem it necessary.

    Now the only thing those who protested might achieve is that we're less likely to be bubbled next time we visit a team policed by the WYP. I thought the whole thing would be rather pointless in the long term, which is why I didn't bother wasting a day to attend it.

    I wanted to go to the udders game, so I felt like I did my bit by joining the boycott, which was also rather pointless due to 400 city fans still going. And good on them, in hindsight I wished I'd have gone too now.
     
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  6. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    That was the case as soon as 400 turned up at the match. Put simply, there was no protest.
     
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  7. Murdoc

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    I think considering the John Smith's Stadium was pretty much half empty shows that a lot of people protested. Slating the City fans who were in attendance doesn't make you any better than the WYP as you're then attempting to stop those fans from doing what they want to do; watch a football game and enjoy it. My brother-in-law was in the away end for City that day. Are you going to call him a 'scab' or a 'let-down'? An embarrassment to the Club?

    It won't have harmed the campaign against the bubble at all. Our point was put across and I'm sure other fans will now do the same. Newcastle supporters have now given the Police a reason to restrict their travel due to their actions so they've thrown it away for themselves and possibly Sunderland fans too, nobody else.
     
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  8. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    All it looked like was that we have ****e away support. That many attending is not a protest and if your brother-in-law ever complains about the way footall fans are treated like animals for supporting their team, then he's only got himself to blame.
     
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  9. King Curtis

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    Imagine if Mourinhio comes back to the Premier League next season and those two come up against each other!
     
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  10. Amin Yapusi

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    It's not those 400 who have let football fans down. It's these ****heads who go start a ruckus under the name of a football club.
     
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    I think it's almost certain he'll go to PSG.
     
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  12. Quill

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    He'd be a bloody idiot if he didn't go there over Chelsea.
     
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  13. King Curtis

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    The circumstances surrounding the game were well publicised and the players warmed up in t-shirts supporting supporters' stance. and add to that the banners in the stand. Fairly obvious to the neutral why the attendance was so poor and puts no indication on the quality of our support. Ultimately, there was still an important 3 points at stake and supporters were perfectly entitled to attend the game. The fact 400 people fans turned up to watch the game doesn't devalue the protest before hand. The vast areas of empty seats for a crucial game only adds to our cause.
     
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  14. Amin Yapusi

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    **** PSG. **** little French club. He'll wait for ferguson.

    Darren ferguson that is
     
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  15. King Curtis

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    The circumstances surrounding the game were well publicised and the players warmed up in t-shirts supporting supporters' stance and add to that the banners in the stand. Fairly obvious to the neutral why the attendance was so poor and puts no indication on the quality of our support. Ultimately, there was still an important 3 points at stake and supporters were perfectly entitled to attend the game. The fact 400 people fans turned up to watch the game doesn't devalue the protest before hand. The vast areas of empty seats for a crucial game only adds to our cause.
     
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  16. Amin Yapusi

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    The media didn't give a flying **** anyway, which is why it was pointless anyway no matter how many ended up going.
     
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  17. bum_chinned_crab

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    Only capital city in the world with just one football club (stat I read in the media, havent checked it) and gives him the chance to be the first man in history to win 5 European leagues.
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    The whole point of the protest, was that the game was being bubbled without any justification whatsoever, not that there never be any bubbling of games.

    Leeds v Millwall, Cardiff v Swansea, Millwall v West Ham, Sunderland v Newcastle etc have been bubbled for many years and nobody was suggesting they shouldn't be. If there's a genuine public order issue, then the police are quite within their rights to do something about it. The point of Huddersfield was that there was no public order issue, it was just politics and it was complete bollocks.

    This weekend has changed nothing with regard to Huddersfield v Hull City games, though it obviously hasn't helped football as a whole.
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    It's not true, there's a few clubs, though not very good ones.
     
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  20. The Omega Man

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    WYP will have smiled at the media coverage.

    I really don't understand some posters who still believe that the protest was not a success and still believe that attending the match was treason or something. The vast majority of supporters of Hull City, do not post on here, read threads, or HDM. They are not members of supporters groups. They simply buy a pass or a match ticket and go to the games. In fact look how many go to away matches.
    The protest got media coverage at the same level as our average coverage.
    Millwall diluted the focus by pointing to the late kick off. It looks like the Newcastle fighting would have happened no matter what time or the result.
    Stoke is actually the most disturbing situation. Too many silences. Show respect, yes but really it is getting beyond comprehension and this will lead to apathy, with just one more reason for fans to start on each other.
     
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