Real? re West Ham we also had 4 times the shots on target and 10 more corners than them... But I agree it doesn't matter if we didn't score. If Suarez wasn't at Liverpool there'd be a different player ... that line of argument is defunct. This Canas story gospel? Looks a good signing.
Canas has signed a pre-contract. was going to come in January but Betis wanted over a million quid so we said **** that we'll just wait till the summer and get him for free!! Canas could be a great player for us,loves a tackle and got good skills,looks purpose built for the prem league tbh. Whats the odds on saurez going to bayern then rev ? also, what happened to sturridge ?has he been injured or has he just had a dip in forrm?
Depends if they're interested... Think they're one of three sides which could afford and entice him. But if he leaves I'd say them. Sturridge is lacking match fitness an has had minor issues... Luckily Coutinho has started brightly.
for all the crap Dai spouts i personally believe he wants bites, put him on iggy then noone will respond to his silly comments re ML
None of you need to be too worried about where Liverpool may be heading as, just like in the 90s, we'll be fine eventually. We always have bounced back. We'll finish above Everton after beating them at Anfield, like we always beat them there, and with them having a much harder run in, so, on paper, my calculations mean I expect us to finish 6th by 3pts We were light years ahead of West Ham. It was complete and utter domination for 90 mins, just like most of our home games last season when we couldn't score. The only problem we had was Suarez, Gerrard and Sturridge had bad games. If any teams main sources of goals put in performances which are poor, they will struggle to win. The measure of how excellent Rodger's has done this season is that in the previous 3 seasons we guaranteed would of won that game. Its was minute for minute the same script as WBA at home last season where we annihilated them all game, created chance after but missed absolute sitters, they had 1 shot on target all game and scored and won the match. Brodge has without question strengthened the mentality of the players and all throughout the season there's been loads of examples of draws which last 3 seasons would of been losses, and won games that the last 3 seasons we would've drew. Thats been his biggest achievement in his first season imo, plus the purchase of Coutinho. There seems to be an awful lot of wishful thinking going on in this thread towards Brendo, and by extension Liverpool. I get it. I do. We do it with Rafa and Torres, rewrite histoory, say they weren't that important, they weren't that good etc, and make out that they have only bad things in their futures etc even though not one of us has a crystal ball and can see the future, and not one of us is experienced or qualified enough in professional Football to predict future performances. All i can tell you as someone who goes every home game is that a large majority of the supporter base are very happy with Brendans start. He has already improved on last season's poor league form and has a realistic chance of equaling Rafa's 63 points from 09/10 which would be a real step forwards and an official end to the decline we've been on since Rafa left. I am not 110% convinced by him yet as its only one season, but I have confidence that he will have us back in the top 4 next season or season after at he very latest. Its gonna take time such was the mess on and off the field he inherited. I think its quite sad to the way most of you have turned on him after what he achieved with you. I went to both games against Swans last year and the relationship and bond between the fans and him, especially the final game when everyone was dressed as Elvis, was one of the strongest and closest relationships betweens supporters and Manager I'd seen in a very long time.
I have seen a lot of your games since you won the cup as we always seem to be playing Sunday for some frigging reason, and its fair to say you have suffered the usual League Cup curse. We were awful after winning it last season too. I think winning a trophy effects players mentality and approach negatively because as they have a cup in their hands they've won, they feel their season objective is complete and now its party time. I think if the League Cup was also in May, we wouldn't ever be talking about this curse.
Every Swansea, Reading and Watford fan I spoke to said categorically that Rodger's would be sacked by Xmas, yet he's still here and is currently negotiating a new contract.
Thats nothing mate. At this stage of the all powerful Rafa Benitez's first season with LFC he was 37 points behind the top team (Chelsea). 37. No matter how anyone tries to spin it, like Goodland earlier, people have to admit, especially if we do finish 6th, that he's had an encouraging first season considering he's only been here 5 minutes. People seem to forget that. Even if Mourinho had took over the best he could of got us is 6th as because of the thin on quality and depth squad we had at the start of the season. How come that, and the fact that FSG ****ed him up the arse last Summer regarding another ST, never get a mention? He had 1 striker until the beginning of January. hard for any boss. He obviously had little interest in the Cups, perhaps beside the EL once we got thru the group, as he kept starting teams with a lot of players who weren't his first choice players in the league for some reason. I remember we started with 18 yr old Samid Yesil against you in the Cup as we had no-one else, and it was one of the worst and most petrified performances I've seen. So bad that he had to come off at HT for Suarez who was meant to be getting a rest. To go that long with ONE striker is a huge setback and he dealt with it well. Rodger's hasn't a realistic chance to win anything yet either. The only half decent team he's managed before us was you and his team he came up with wasn't good enough to win a cup without Michu, JDG, Pablo, Chico. Laudrup has massively improved your starting lineup which he deserves great credit for. If in 5 years at Liverpool he still hasn't won a Cup then criticise him, but to criticise him now before he's ever had a team good enough to win something, is rash. He's barely started his career ffs. Id David MOyes an awful Manager because in 11 years at Everton he's never won a Cup?
This is hilarious. best rant I've ever seen. EVER. All because a Swans fan won't agree with others that Laudrup is a better Manager than Rodger's is. pathetic. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and thats his. Does his upset you more because he's actually a Swan so should be party line? My opinions are very similar to Dai's but doesn't seem to upset someone as much as this to go an essay length rant. Dai, mate, just say Laudrup is the best Manager you've seen and you'd have bum sex with him before someone is sent round to yours to force you too. Haha. Brilliant.
Just someone whose made the fatal mistake of having an opinion different to the majorities. I'd rather have Brodgeson over Laudrup to to be honest. I'm confident BRs record at Liverpool will rbe very successful. He already has us scoring more goals since 08/09 and the playing the best football I've seen since Rafa's heyday. When he finally gets to bring in his own players in the next few windows I'm certain it'll get even better. Its way too early to be lavishing either with all kinds of platitudes after not even ONE frigging season has been completed
Not sure what you mean about "spin it" - the point I was trying to make, which I think goes hand in hand with the one you're making, is that just because we happen to think Laudrup has had a great season does not negate Rodgers's achievement over the previous season. It doesn't have to be a case of "I like one, so the other one is rubbish." If Rodgers hadn't have left, we would have gone into the season with a very positive feeling and quite rightly been saying that Rodgers should have been a contender for manager of the season (not winner, but contender). He is doing better than I thought he would - anyone who would look back over my posts (I don't think anyone would bother - life's too short) would probably change "thought" to "hoped"... but there you go. The team he inherited and the way the club left him with a threadbare squad, I honestly thought they would be round about mid-table, a little lower. All it would have taken was Suarez to get injured or have a run of bad form and they would have struggled. I would also like to take the time to negate the "one-man-team" jibe thrown at Liverpool, because Michu has probably won us a similar proportion of our points, if we looked back over his goals and assists. It's an easy thing to throw at a team that has a very good player. I like the idea that Rodgers is trying to get top teams to actually pass the ball and control it, the struggles and poor performances of English clubs in Europe this season have been quite embarrassing. Still, as Dai said football is "dog eat dog" and, if I agree with him on that (and the implied excusing of managers' and players' self-interest), then why should that not work both ways? I think Rodgers did an excellent job for us, I think (changing my initial POV) that he looks to be building towards doing a good job for Liverpool now - nothing in his remit requires him to do anything for Swansea but his constant targeting of our players does us no favours. He would happily strip away our best players and send us down - as such, alongside the casual 'big kid in the playground' behavious of clubs that have been historically successful, I can't stop myself from being wary of him. As such, why can't we look at our own self-interest? Maybe a similar question to throw back would be: why do a lot (not all) of Liverpool's fans find it hard to like Michael Owen? I think there's a parallel there - someone who found success with you, you cheered on and thought was one of you, went to a bigger club. There have been things that Owen has come out and said that I thought was a little disrespectful to the club that made his name and he went and signed for his rivals but surely you should just have wished him well for what he achieved on the pitch? (P.S. I'm not trying to be antagonistic - just highlighting my point. Much as I did when Swans fans complained about people poaching our players and then we bought Michu for £2m from a struggling club)
I think the wummer/fool debate sprung not so much from the desire by Dai to highlight Rodgers' strengths, but to denegrate Laurdrup. I think the 'who did more for Swansea' debate is an interesting one - but it can't really say that either was rubbish because they have cleary both done important things for the club. Having just won our first ever trophy and developed our playing style to being more attractive, I can see why some would thing "Well, that has to be a wind up" or "a bit ill-thought out" if someone suggested Laudrup should be sacked. It's a little like if Rafa had a wobble after winning the European Cup, saying that he was rubbish because Kenny did a very good job. There are still Liverpool fans who think Rafa should have got more time. And just because Kenny did a good job doesn't mean that Rafa didn't.
Toola . There rant many on here not thankful for what Rodgers did, but could you really say he was thankful to the club? Nobody ever had an issue with him taking a massive club on like Liverpool and I think we all wished himwell with that venture. What soured a lot of people including board members was him going back on his gentle mans agreement. Most of you Liverpool guys would have preferred laudrup to Rodgers anyway and to pretend different is a lie, your message boards were full of it at the time. Trying to work out why you ended up with the lesser option, your fans words by the way not mine. So a lot of Liverpool fans rate laudrup higher than Rodgers .. you should read your clubs forums and not just 606 Another point to make here is the transfer market. Would Liverpool have improved more with michu,Chico and jdg ? I think they would have, it's why you are looking to buy some of those players in the summer. Ash Williams to Liverpool? What are your thoughts on this by the way? If the value is met he will go there, some of us know that this deal was on the cards last season..another reason why brenden blotted his copybook( or is it a 180 page dossier,I forget) with swans fans. I wish brenden every success but in another way I know this will be bad for SCFC . The longer he stays there the more he will want our players,as a swans fan you can understand why he isn't flavor of the month! The title of the article is true. Scout your own ****in players you fat Irish cubt.. Apart from that I wish Liverpool every success, they should not be competing with Swansea and WBA they should be competing with Chelsea and man united. A little press bird told me that the senior players arnt buying into brenden but the youngsters love him, heard anything your end ?
I understand the point that a Liverpool fan made on here - how is constantly going after Swansea players & ex-reading players going to make the club more likely to achieve a spot in the Champion's League? I do also think that signing Joe Allen was a bit knee-jerk. I mean, he could easily have worked with Henderson to do a similar role rather than feeling obliged to take Allen off us. Likewise, why go after JDG? He is going cheap but is he what they need? Would he fit into their team? They already have Gerrard, Coutinho, Lucas, Allen, Henderson (and more) for centre midfield. I would suggest that is the last position they should go for. I find it odd because he does take care of his image - can't he see the perception he is fostering of him? Their right back is as good as anyone in the league but they do prob need a centre half. Centre midfield is fine. So centre half, winger and an attacker so Suarez, Sturridge and X can be rotated a bit between two positions. On a budget, I would say Benteke or Remy (maybe Benteke is too similar to Sturridge) and maybe Dusan Tadic as a right-sided attacker, if they absolutely need a cente midfielder then Alonso might be getable whilst bringing experience and prestige or Barrada at Getafe for a good young one, that Dutch centre-half they're looking at would be fine or Timm Klose. There job done, Brendan.
