thatchers done one

(No idea who Humphrey A is so I guess not)

So how come Prescott and Johnson couldn't swing any state sector jobs up our way when they were in all those cabinet meetings? Surely our council wouldn't have knocked them back?

I don't see that Labour any more or any less than the Tories did, attempted or was able to spread the wealth nationwide.

 

City Agro

1) The papers released under the 30 year rule show that the Naval Chiefs warned the defence secretary John Nott in 1981 that they believed that an attempt would be made on the Falklands. Despite that, at cabinet it was agreed that HMS Endurance would be withdrawn. Tam Dalyell raised concerns in parliament a good two months before the invasion. She ignored this until 7th March 1982 when she asked Nott how long it would take to send a force to the islands.

As previously stated, sounds like a **** up / pants down scenario.


2) I had two great uncles on either side of the Miners strike. The one who voted for Thatcher and disliked Scargill intensely actually admitted years afterwards that Scargill had been right about the real intention of the coal board. He said that only certain mines were made unworkable, (and he supervised many of these) with the idea that the profitable ones could be privatised at later point once the NUM had been brought down. Instead we bought German coal from an industry subsidised by the West German government. Bonkers

Bonkers yes. Lions led by donkeys whose real goal was not the welfare of their members but bringing down the Conservative government.

3) In a media role, I witnessed the change in the relationship between the miners and the police, initially local coppers ( brothers, cousins, friends) - no problems, then the north/south switch, people being stopped on the motorway told to turn back by the police on the threat of arrest and the unedifying site of coppers waving money at the miners, whilst having all expenses (inc. their booze) paid for whilst staying over in Cleethorpes. Disgraceful[/QUOTE]

A lot of disgraceful behaviour on both sides.

 

ditto

 

too many https

 

Why didn't Labour transfer any jobs to this area when in power, that includes the previous Labour Governments not just the last one? Being a Labour stronghold has achieved absolutely nothing for the city of Hull.

 

.......by doing a celebratory piece on a local hero (ie Grantham?)

 

I wouldn't agree with the middle line - a lot of very decent people suffered - but I would pretty much the rest. Scargill's mistake was that he didn't take a vote on the strike and handed the moral high ground to Thatcher. He led the NUM very badly indeed. I was told by a friend from one of the Tory policy units, that had they taken a vote and been pro-strike, the government would have negotiated. However, Scargill knew he wouldn't carry the vote...in the end a lot of folks suffered. A bad time.

I think I'll get back to the football forum now...

 

Well said that man

 

Scargill and Thatcher were both meglamaniacs. The miners strike was manipulated by both of them for political reasons, but the ones who really suffered were the miners and their families. Hopefully you didn't think they deserved to be kicked in the bollocks too?

 

It was the stupidity of Scargill wanting to play politics. If he hadn't been such an egomaniac he would have gone for a vote to strike, made it all official and carried others with him.
Ironic from a man who refused to support Solidarity on the basis it wanted to being down a government and that wasn't something he could support. Even though it was a government which hadn't elected in a free election and didn't allow free unions or strikes. Says it all about him really.

 

You will be celebrating when Scargill kicks the bucket then?

 

Indeed...

 

Our very own 'Malvinas'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall

 

and the Lib Dems who do what the others tell them to

 

Oh dear. A 30 by 25m rock in the middle of the Ocean is being disputed between four different Governments...

What would happen if I went there and built a house on it?

 

There I'm nailing my flag to the fence. For anyone who wants to discuss the use of UK coal and Utilities I'm happy to join any discussion. However the state of the UK energy sector is entirely down to idealistic environmental policies brought in under Labour.