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Go away Rodgers - learn how to scout your own players!

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Goodland, Apr 2, 2013.

  1. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Well thats what i expect....you know questions need to be answered and you cant answer why they shouldn't....
    Lets hope shall we that laudrup shows a mark of improvement and show us he his good enough to compete with other managers at the buisiness end of the season...
     
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  2. swanseaandproud

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  3. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Its a bit to deep and complex for most on here bony....all they see with their rose tinted glasses is what we did at the beginning of the season and not the real issue of what is happening here and now.....why do you think fans are making comments about the swans and their poor form these past few months......for the fun of it i suppose or do they have a valid point.....
     
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  4. Cam_Jack

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    Dai - re your disappointment with recent results - in your opinion how much is down to the players vs the manager?
     
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  5. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    you see everyone ...just take a look at swanalonas post and you can see its way way above his head and far to complex to understand what fans are worried about...ok you cant educate someone who cant grasp the debate but at least he is not alone...<ok>
     
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  6. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    the manager every time, he is the one who dictates the way we play and picks the side and im in agreement that the players are not over happy with his ways either.....they can only play to his instructions so he must take the rap....
     
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  7. Cam_Jack

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    Not complex - so, IYHO players or manager? (not a difficult question, hey)
     
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  8. Cam_Jack

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    Dai - you seem to be on a mission to denigrate ML - the players dont simply play to his instructions - "once they cross that white line......etc etc"

    To what extent do you believe the players are not stepping up, and if so who in particular?
     
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  9. Goodland

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    I'm not sure what Rodgers would do if he was back with us - how would he be able to sign Swansea players then?!!
     
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  10. Goodland

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    In all seriousness, though, does it have to be Rodgers is great so Laudrup isn't? Does it have to be Laudrup is great so Rodgers isn't? Surely, what we should say is that we've just had two candidates for the best managers ot ever manage Swansea. As for sacking Laudrup, well, it's obviously a WUM (at least I hope it is) but iffy results (no more so than last year) results over 10 games don't negate the season.

    We all cry out at good managers getting sacked for no or little reason, but, seriously, how would the country react to that? We'd be a laughing stock. Well done to Liverpool getting above us at last, having spent all that money and surviving on the gates they get. Rodgers is doing better than I thought he would - so well done. In a way it helps us, good managers and players can see the benefit of coming to work with us. Laudrup has achieved more, but with a team that survived the previous year. They both have their strengths - Rodgers was able to change games at times, but Laudrup seems a little more incisive.

    Still, my problem with Rodgers is that, without a second thought, he would asset strip us and, like Dai, say "Dog eat dog". Well sure, if you want to have that attitude, then you can only expect one response. Should it be gratitude? Sorry, it's going to be distrust and aggression.
     
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  11. Dilligaf

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    Errrr NO. Wrong guess Dai, that's not why I'm lost for words.

    I really don't know where to start with you. You have your opinions and they won't change no matter what. Ten years ago we nearly went out of the league and were at rock bottom. Now we sit 9th in the Premier League and have won the first major honour in our history and have qualified for European football next season. The first Welsh team to play in the Premier League and the first Welsh team to qualify for Europe without winning the Welsh cup.
    There's about 80 odd league teams that would happily swap places with us right now. The neighbours at Legoland are emotional wrecks now because of the way our club has outshine them and has been the leading light in Welsh football.

    Brendan Rodgers won ZERO major honours as manager of Swansea City. He has moved on to Liverpool FC and had won ZERO with them too. This is a club that has a hell of a lot more money than us and aspire to be champions. This is a club that is 29 points behind Manchester United, that's TWENTY NINE points.

    Michael Laudrup has been here one season and had won ONE major honour so far. During the cup winning campaign we beat the champions of Europe over two legs and stopped them scoring a goal. We also beat Brendan's beloved Liverpool at Anfield on the way to the Wembley win too.

    Just to remind you this is Michael Laudrup I'm talking about footballing legend and one of the best players to ever step foot on a football field. To be criticising him in the way you have been is an insult to him, the football club and all the posters on this board. Debate is fine and I can tolerate all things related to Swansea City FC even when I don't agree and I will not resort to name calling or any personal insults.

    But Dai, and it's a big but, this continuous love in with Rodgers has got to stop. He is the past and I am only interested in the present and what will happen in the future. You have been told time after time that no one is interested in him anymore. Can't you see that it is antagonising just about everyone on this board? We don't care so please stop talking about him on this board.

    Like I've said Rodgers won us zero honours Laudrup has won us one. Figures don't lie, Laudrup has won more than Rodgers end of.
     
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  12. Norway-jack

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    Dont b such a dick, i and many others have also supported the club through thick and thin and nobody i know thinks Laudrup is **** like you do!! im fed up of you winding up fellow jacks with your total bollocks, none of what you say makes any sense at all. Its obvious you support Livrpool and love Brenden to bits, im not saying you dont follow the Swans,its clear that you do , but its also clear the team doesnt mean alot to you, i also dont understand why for far too long you have been having a dig at our manager, whay is the reason for this ??

    I am so ashamed to read the things you say RE Laudrup and the squad, i will have a go at the players when i feel they have been below par but i will try and be balanced about it, your bile comes with no reason what so ever!! its sheer madness and is designed to incite trouble on the board ..which it very often does.

    Ive been aware of your WUMS for a long time, ive always let them go and taken them with pinch of salt but your recent attack on Laudrup is just bad taste, can you not even give him credit for winning the clubs only ever trophy ??

    What did rodgers do while at Swansea dai ?? i'll tell you, he took a club on the up and steered it in the right direction,he inspired players to perform and be consistant enough to gain promotion, even after all that it came down to a game of chance, a 50/50 one off game where anything could happen,lucky for us we had players who were mentally stronger,they wernt Brendens signings they were players that had sweated blood for the cause before he rolled into town spouting bullshit,players like Monk,ash, leon,dobbie ,dyer,de vries,rangel,taylor,pratley,gower,tate all players that he didnt sign .

    Swansea were always going o acheive promotion,with or withour him, sousa was denied funds to sign a top striker, brenden was given sinclair and borini !! if sousa had those players then promotion would have also been on the cards, lets get perspective on thewhole thing because you seem to have forgotton all the FACTS !!


    Laudrup came into a team favourites for relegation and missing allen,glyfi,caulker,sinclair and taylor !! yet you seem to think he has done ****! please name me a manager out there that can replace 5 top players ,play a better style,win a cup,be 9th in the premier league and win manager of the year !!

    The FACT remains that Brenden didnt win manager of the year but Laudrup did.

    So your argument revolves around the FACT that the likes of Alex ferguson,Arsene Wenger,David Moyes,Rafa Benitez,AVB, roberto Mancini,Sam alardice,Harry redknapp,steve clark, Martin jol and many others have got it completely wrong but you, some prick who used to be toilet attendent at the vetch is completly right and Laudrup needs to be replaced and is **** !!...<laugh>

    Please MODS , either tell this idiot to wind his neck in or ban him for being a WUM. Daiswan has been tolorated for a long time, the WUMS arnt funny anymore, we are at a very delicate time in the clubs History, the season is going to be tough,we will struggle to pick up points in the run in, we have euro football to prepare for next season and we can expect a turbulent summer with players being poached!! we need to be supportive of the team and if being objective at least base it on some form of logic, i cant tolorate the complete bollocks being spouted by him anymore because there is no evidence to support his crack pot views.


    Speaking of the summer and transfers. If Brenden is so ****ing hot and the swans are **** why does he want to sign so many of our players ??

    If he was a good manager why didnt he sign JDG on loan instead of Swansea ?? Liverpool being the massive club that they are surely knew about this player ? why does Laudrup un earth the gems but brenden doesnt ??

    Take Chelsea's youth team out of the equation and glfi from reading who he also knew, who has rodgers signed that makes you stand up and think ?

    Lita ?
    Kemy ?
    Moore ?
    obang ?
    situ ?
    donnely ?


    Vorm was sorted by our dutch connections, he signed routledge but never played him even when he was the player in form, his record for spotting talent isnt too great is it ?

    Lets see what Laudrup plucked the holes with when brenden left and dropped us in the ****

    Michu
    Chico
    JDG
    Pablo
    Ki
    Bartley
    Itay
    Lamar
    Tiendalli

    There is one clear winner here, Laudrups signings earnt us Euro football and and the league cup, something that rodgers with all hi super human people skills could not muster.

    Stop ****ting on the club you supposedly support Dai, its getting beyond the joke now, your opinion is totally deluded and formed pruely to wind up fellow Jacks, if you honestly beleived the things you write and mentioned them to others then they would think you a complete idiot, something that many othe people on here are starting to realise .

    Be proud of your team, stop being a big time charlie prawn sandwich eating ****wit who thinks losing to Arsenal and Spurs is a sacking offence and remember where the club has come from these last 10yrs, you are a cancer in modern day football, one of those who thinks losing a few games means its all impending doom, and the manager needs sacking, your like those idiots on talksport who phone in after their team lose a game "sack the manager, he gota go " everything that is wrong with modern day football is represented in your bizzare comment RE Laudrup .

    You mmay think we are ****, i and many others happen to think the Swans have done an amazing job considering the upheaval at the start of the season.

    You may think Laudrup is ****, i and the league managers happen to think Laudrup is one of the best.

    You may think Laudrup needs replacing, i and many others happen to think losing him would be a massive loss .

    You may think......oh, hang on, i dont actually beleive you think at all!


    Laudrup will **** up of that we can be sure, nobody is perfect,when he does he will need more support than any other manager we have ever had, why ? because he has earnt that level of respect from 99.9% of fans, next season is going to be unbeleivably hard, if you think this season is bad then next year its gonna be worse, bigger teams than us struggle to cope with the fixtures, lets try and be like proper Jacks and back the team and manger no matter what happens eh ??

    Remember when we used to sing "Swansea till i die " ? well, i still think that way ,shame you dont <ok>
     
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  13. mustyfrog

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    i do not know if Dai is serious or has his head up his arse or just wumming, last 2 posts say it all
     
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  14. Pete from Crete

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    Totally agree Norway.Dai -a wummer or a fool?Answers on a postcard!
     
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  15. aswan_dam

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    He's not wumming. It's what he believes.
     
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  16. Cam_Jack

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    Norway, amazing passionate plea but unfortunately will only fuel his flames
     
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  17. trundles left foot

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    Norway, well said mate. I have been reading the post and can feel my stomach turning over and getting more and more annoyed at the clowns posts. I had to wait and walk away from the laptop before i posted as if i had straightaway i would have been banned. I believe that all but one on here felt exactly the same.

    Why as genuine swansea fans do we have to put up with this guys BS. Something needs to be done about him. It is totally unacceptable wumming.
     
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  18. Norway-jack

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    Yes cam im fully aware of that but sometimes things need to be said . <ok>
     
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  19. Norway-jack

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    Trundle- I have been strongly against Dai being removed in the past ,when i was acting as temporary MOD on here i stood up for the guy many times , but i think what is happening now is the classic case of giving somebody an Inch and them taking a mile !!

    There is a line and that has been crossed, what has been sid by him cannot be formed on any kind of logic, even the most open minded Swans fans find these comments bad taste and dis respectful to the team and manager.


    The Swans mean alot to all of us, i will very often have a go at team and tactics myself, though i like to think its more about seeing where we can improve and taking an objective approach is something we all do when mulling over a defeat or even draw or victory, thats all part of the wonderfull world of football !

    I and many others will be constructive about the team we love but i have yet to find any constructiveness in Daiswans comments!! its as if he hs gone out of his way to be annoying and wum people up, how can somebody beleive Laudrup needs to be sacked ??

    What position should we expect to finish in this season ? nearly everyone i know said the same thing ..17th !! anything other than that is a bonus.


    As somebody said above, i think it was aswan. Swansea have acheived everything they wanted about a month too soon !! getting a few more points will help smooth things over .

    I love the Swans to bits, we all do, we all care a little bit too much sometimes but i've never come across somebody so out of touch and so emmbarrasing as Daiswan these last few months.

    He is becoming the biggest joke on here since john hughs, and this guy is apparently a Jack!!
     
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  20. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Norway as you say APPARENTLY.
     
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