WYP have achieved exactly what they would have hoped for, no drunks causing bother, after all any ****wit who goes and gets drunk in Huddersfield justifies their action, the very public display by the club and its fans will be soiled if this happens. Very few fans to police in the ground means low policing costs thus meeting austerity measures faced. Smart on all accounts... Thoughts? Oh and when out and about in Huddersfield prior to the game, if you see fellow fans getting pissed and rowdy what'ch gonna do ?? Have a quiet word and get told to **** right off tosser?
What a load of nonsense. WYP wanted to save money and make a point. They look absolutely incompetent in the eyes of their peers. They've spent more than they would have done had the game just gone ahead and ended up with more City fans scattered all over West Yorkshire watching the game than they'd have had if they were competent and they STILL have to Police City fans on the march and also at the game. What sort of success is that?
How have they spent more than they would have done? Upto now hardly any manhours will have been expended, only 400 fans to police, 10 times less than a no restriction situation. A peaceful protest in front of camera. No need to go heavy handed there! Same handful of coppers will then be deployed to the game. End of, you couldn't have minimised your costs any better and guaranteed a peaceful afternoon any better! FACT.
Sorry forget to give an opinion of the 'incompetence' appearance, in the eyes of hard pressed budget holders they probably look quiet good? Other police forces trying to meet budget targets might also look with envy at what they've achieved? I'm just giving a view from the opposing perspective before anyone turns into an Internet warrior
Still more bollocks. The peaceful afternoon was pretty much guaranteed BEFORE they ****ed up, that's based on Home Office facts. Now, they've got a March, a football game and lots of individuals scattered all over their region. That alone will cost more than they needed to spend (The majority of football games are police free these days) but when you add in the time and resources spent dreaming up ways of trying to justify and defend their actions, it adds up to a lot more. Those are just the facts.
Hardly, other more competent Police forces have Police free games and only focus on the minority IF there's a probability of a problem.
Ha LMAO, in 35 years of going to away games I've NEVER seen a police free game! What a ridiculous statement. Funny as **** from a so called MOD
You should pay more attention. There's been several at the KC in recent seasons. But it's about 53% of premier league games. You seem to be learning a lot on this thread.
Anyone thinking of policing our own fans/trouble makers,might be better thinking again. Wyp won't give a ****,whether you were trying to help or not. You'll find yourselves in the dock with the rest. Rough justice i know,but that's the way it turns out.
Here you go, Government stats. 51% of all matches were police free – continuing to free up police resources to deal with local police and community priorities . https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/118119/fbo-2010-11.pdf
I completely agree with the OP, WYP have got EXACTLY what they wanted here and all because of those 400 ****s who bought tickets. And they won't be made to look stupid and incompetent in the media because of this. How does an away end with 400 in make a good story and demonstrate the criminalisation of normal fans? An empty end and there's a story, now it's ****ing nothing. I've never felt so let down by fellow City fans.
Best of luck tomorrow for everyone attending the protest march. Hope it's a great success. I'd be there with you if Huddersfield wasn't so far from Melbourne!
WYP have made absolute and utter cocks of themselves as a result of their decision; they have achieved nothing but to place the ‘Bubble-Game’ and their harsh categorisation on a national pedestal, which has brought them into disrepute from any reasonable perspective. I totally support the campaign and believe there should be a continuation of demanding more detailed explanation as to how they arrived at the most serious of all levels of policing categories for the match. I came across this link and found it useful: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/10/police-uk-riots-football-postponements The march, as with all marches, is a matter of choice. I can see and understand the justification and the message it sends, I just hope it achieves its aim and I wish it good fortune, as we have seen very credible and very well organised events hi-jacked in the past, but that is not a reason for not marching, just a reason for finding an alternative, if there is one. The fact that I was always intent on watching the game at home means that is what I will still do –buggered ankle ligaments have kind-of made it a no-brainer. The boycott is something I would not have done, as I would rather have been inconvenienced by the stupid sanctions and made it obvious that they (WYP) could not disrupt the support of my team to the extent where I do not attend (why should they?); although I would have totally supported the club had they of exercised their right to return all ticket allocations – but I also understand why they have not and support them in that. Without that total boycott then a partial boycott was always going to be ineffectual, demeaning to the argument and credibility of the protest – to counter this and to strengthen the argument, the whole allocation should have been taken and a stadium protest could have been continued with a very visible and vocal message to all concerned. WYP reducing the numbers was pathetic and countered their argument about containment being effective (DMD posted 10 additional questions that I thought were excellent), so I simply do not understand why we should assist them further. Clearly I am different in my view to some others on here, I hold mine from principles, just as do others who do not agree with me.
Knacked ankle makes armchair sport a must do, so was sorting the FC/KR Derby and then Palace vs Brum and I wondered if that kick-off was a Bubble game?
Policing in the ground is paid for by the club, so less fans there saves the police nothing. Instead of having 1,700 fans inside the ground during the game they've now got 400 inside the ground, and around the same in the town centre. Those 400 in the town centre would not have been there (they'd have gone to the game at around 4:30pm) had they not imposed these restrictions. Those 400 fans now "need" policing. There's more of them in the town centre for a longer period of time and later in the day. That's a greater number of people, with a greater consumption of alcohol, over a bigger area, closer to the time when they claimed they didn't have the resources to police the smaller group adequately. That is a much bigger expense than they would have incurred normally. As for trouble in the town centre, if there is any how does it justify the restrictions? The restrictions are in place and will have failed to prevent the trouble, so if anything it shows the measures to be counterproductive, they've created the situation in which the fans are still there to be creating the trouble.
