Remember his goal and jim montgemerys double save was not born at the time but have it on video and my old man was at the match
Am I not right in thinking that Sunderland signed a certain Ally McCoist from St Johnstone in the early 80's?? I even have a lot of time for O Neill gave up his career to look after his seriously ill wife to look after her. I know not many of us could do this due to lack of money but he certainly showed there are more important things in life than football. And that is not to sound patronising or glib. Mind you I would say that being an Aberdeen supporter
'prospect of winning lots of games in the Championship?????' Not guarenteed!!! Just ask Wolves, Bolton & Blackburn supporters!!!!'
Yes Peter Reid did give us a lot in a few years â and who was the chairman who provided it and the stadium to see it in, and who was the most castigated fella on this and other blogs. Stand up Bob Murray. What makes forums like this difficult is a strange sense of importance we all have about our team. What have we got to feel important about? I started supporting Sunderland consistently at the age of ten â in 1962/3 season. For me, our yo-yo status started here (too good for Div 2, not good enough for Div 1), I donât think we ever went more than five seasons in any of these two divisions without a promotion or relegation - except of course, for the dark days of Lawrie McMenemy. I therefore agree with Cestria â it has been a depressing time, even when we have been in the top division it is only those two seasons with Peter Reid that offer us top ten status, before and since then it has been the same sad old story. BUT we are Sunderland AFC and we WILL keep on hoping and getting enraged, and fretting over every result, and we will do somethingâ¦. eventually.
Cest/Mack, thank you both for putting this to bed. Two good lads who both love their club. Well done guys.
The biggest thing that has done it for me this season isn't our current form as I've seen it worse; not our play as I've seen far, far worse and certainly not the manager who I both respect and hold much affection for. It's the very fact and sudden realisation that its never going to be any better than this. Scraping along the bottom of the tank feeding off the scraps nobody else wants. Always being utter failures; never winning anything; never playing in Europe; never amounting to anything other than a pile of ****e. I'm tired of spending all my adult life defending the club against constant ridicule and annual embarrassment. It's being full of bravado and optimism, wanting them to succeed and prove everyone wrong but always with the gut instinct that you know they will ALWAYS let you down, despite how much money we throw at it, who owns us and more importantly who is the manager. How many truly quality top class players have we had in the last 30 years? 10? More? 15 at the very most. It's depressing and this season has brought that crashing home for me. Bobby Robsons analogy of what a football club is really about is spot on.......for every fan except a Sunderland fan. It's all very well to say keep your chin up and this is the longest run and all that, I know that. But I can't give anymore than I have and start another failed 5 year plan with yet another flaming manager. I need a break. I was already to walk after the 15 point ****e but came back for Quinny. That feeling of goodwill has all but gone and I'm finished. I really don't want to go again this season. It's gotten that bad.
Sad Cest mate, you are now accepting that your man, for some reason is just not working out... All the credentials, but from the stone age, and sadly wants to do it alone, this i believe is his downfall. Sometimes it's best to let old dogs lie, and i honestly believe this is another case of it...
This feeling is not about Mon failure this season mate. I remain fully behind the bloke. His tenure here may well now sadly be short lived but I don't want to see him go at all. He needed time, patience and support to build his empire but won't now get that time, which saddens me beyond mere words. I've waited all my life for a Mon to come here and truly build something worth watching. He will be gone inside 18 months. That's too short and too short sighted imo by all concerned and for that reason amongst others I want no more part of it. Mon represents our last chance to be something other than utter ****e and its obvious fans will turn on him in the next couple of weeks and I don't want to be part of that either. Having made this decision after the QPR game and returned my non renewal letter, its actually something of a relief now today to have made the decision. I may well feel differently after a total break but right now, I wish the season was just over.
This very post, says it all up for mysellf... It's a sad day when someone like Cest a proud and passionate man, concedes that a man who had all he correct credentials, looks like it may be a failure, If or when he goes, i've really not a clue (and i want him to go,not much though there is there) but he has to go... Cest i await your reply, i'm only half pissed, so can have half a conversation, judging by recent results, that's 50% more than yur recent luck with all the new lads on ere.
I can't see up ever amounting to anything if a top class manager like oneill fails here. In his entire playing and management career, this will now register as his only failure. What the hell does that say about our club mate. I'll guarantee you now he could leave up and join any other club in the EPL now and be hugely successful using the same tactics, formations and so called out dated (I don't subscribe to this thought by the way) methods he has here. It's the club that's ****ed and always will be mate. It doesn't matter who comes in they will fail miserably. That's why I'm calling time on it all.
