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Referee 2 - Newcastle 1- there has to be an investigation surely?

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  1. HP Sauce

    HP Sauce Active Member

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    Spot on summary. But that tackle was absolutely horrendous. Happened in front of us and the whole South Stand clearly thought it wasa astraight red. Very sorry about it and hope the lad makes a full and quick recovery. I don't believe that Wigan are a team sent out by their manager to cheat - a la Pulis and Allardyce - but there's no excuse for what Calum did. Don't know what was going through his head.

    And even though it was in front of us I missed the Figueroa handball for the winner.
     
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  2. Hung Drawn and Quartered

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    not to worry, so did the ref for that matter
     
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  3. Albert's Chip Shop

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    What got me was that some of the Wigan fans applauded the thug off the pitch.
     
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  4. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    Perch 2 yellows was the ONLY thing Wigan fans could gripe about. But then again, you don't go and try to break a players leg and get to complain when his replacement puts in a couple of yellow fouls <ok>

    For what it's worth, I fully believe Martinez insisted on his team roughing us up today. Scharner etc put in some meaty challenges on our better players. Quite surprised by that tact by a man most think fondly of, but it got you three-points, so I doubt it matters much to you <ok>
     
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  5. Hung Drawn and Quartered

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    some Wigan fans on the Radio have admitted that they didn't see it as bad when it happened
    but have changed their minds once they had seen it again <ok>
     
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  6. Albert's Chip Shop

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  7. Albert's Chip Shop

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  8. Dorty Dogbreath

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    X-rated tackle, you could hear the poor kid scream in pain. Our boy's leg is planted on the ground as well, makes it even more dangerous.
     
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  9. Judge Death

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    Not just Halsey that had a 'mare - the entire set of officials should be stood down after today.

    I can (just) perhaps accept Halsey missed it because of the player crossing his vision but what the f*ck is the linesman watching?

    Same for the handball, it was at the near post ffs, the linesman should have had a clear, unobstructed view of it as no-one else was in the way.

    Undoubtedly the chinless, gin swilling c*ck jockeys at the FA will arrange yet another cover up to protect Saint Halsey of Wigan - after all, it only affected a small team in the NE who no-one cares about.

    If it had happened to the Scousers or Mancs, McManaman would have been lined up and shot at half time without trial

    You can ban the c*nt for as long as you like (Halsey or McManaman), but it's not going to bring back any points we should have had or speed up Haidara's recovery
     
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  10. 2SilverSeahorses

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    When the player's longer term physical welfare, not just a professional career is so wrecklessly put at stake &#8211; a referee who misses it, fails to punish and protect players needs to reassess their own profession.

    Yes ok the officials 'missed' our corner kick and the blatant handball for Wigan's winner and those you can usually brush over as human error.

    But when Halsey and the other assistants look at replays of that hatchet job (it was an assault, not a tackle) he should feel embarrassed and offer a formal apology to NUFC.

    I think when you start talking about incidents that seriously endanger the health of players and potentially leave teams without valuable staff for months, it's a very different scenario.

    We paid good money in the January window for Haidara as necessary cover for the remainder of the season. Through no fault of our own, fulfilling a league fixture, that asset has been left stricken for what could be a season.
    Never mind a token 3-game ban for McManaman which benefits NUFC not one bit, but how about some monetary compensation and permission for an emergency loan?

    It makes a mockery of signing these players if they can just be cut down like that. We were abolutely robbed of at least a point today but I'd be fine with that if Haidara was ok...
     
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  11. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Apparently Wigan have apologised and said the player will say sorry to Haidara.
    Clearly trying to reduce his eventual ban.
     
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  12. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    If they were that sorry, Callum wouldn't have appeared at half time because he'd have been too busy apologising for the rest of the match. A PR apology is a farce.
     
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  13. Hugh Briss

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    I'm utterly stunned by what i've witnessed today...

    The scouse **** must be banned for at least 3 games - intentional or not, that was a horror tackle <grr>

    Referee needs removing from the game, frankly. If he can't see that was a foul, then he is clueless...

    Handball as blatant as you'll see, corner not given when Cisse's shot was saved... the list goes on and on.

    Officials in both the Sky games were a bad joke.

    <lostforwords>

    <doh>
     
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  14. Mrs Magpie

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    I'm not sure if this has been mooted before, but why not have some kind of league tables for refs? They should start each season with say 100 points. During the season, managers should be able to appeal a limited small number of decisions (and once you've used them all, too bad) and if a decision made during a game is over turned on review, that ref has points deducted.

    So, if a player is given a straight red card but their manager believes it was wrong decision, appeals, the review results in the red card being overturned, then the ref (and all other officials at that match) are deducted 3 points. Something like that. The bottom 3 refs/officials come the end of the season find themselves officiating championship games next season, top 3 from championship come up.

    Oh and I recommend a new test be brought in for officials before they become qualified. An eye test.
     
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  15. Mrs Magpie

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    Dear Mr McManaman

    We look forward to welcoming you to St James Park next season.

    Lots of love

    The Toon Army x
     
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  16. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    There is a table of refs, but it's pretty useless and not got anything to do with performance, as I understand it. I do like your idea, though I suspect too many refs would be relegated!

    I think it would be cool to have a thread on here where a consensus is made on each ref's performance in the weekend, and then a similar table constructed. We could do it for the last few games!
     
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  17. Albert's Chip Shop

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    The referees credentials............

    Let's examine them up close at St James'

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  18. Hung Drawn and Quartered

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    They do have a league table, but is kept under lock and key by the PGMOL ( a secret society )

    http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/referees/about-pgmol.html
     
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  19. daveynufc

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    I agree Perch got off lightly and could've seen a second yellow, but there was no way he could send off one of our players after what Mcmanaman did, you see it often, when a ref knows he's made the wrong decision and tries to compensate.
    Also consider Perch wouldn't even be on the pitch if Haidara hadn't been hatcheted so that decision wouldn't even have had to be made. Personally though, arguably the worst decision he made was not to show Mcmanaman a yellow for the utterly blatant, intentional attempt to catch the ball immediately after the tackle. That was a deliberate handball if ever there was one, and the ref can't even claim he didn't see it.
    Putting the tackle into context, compare that to the red cards Colo and Tiote saw for us this season.
     
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  20. Hash.

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    Wigan 2-1 Newcastle.

    5,000 Newcastle fans, keep your 20,000 chins up.
     
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