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MoN OUT!... Apparently.

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Brian Storm, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. bonnybobbypark

    bonnybobbypark Well-Known Member

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    Our problems stem from who we are and where we are. We still struggle in the top flight and have been nowhere for (apart from '73) all the years since the 30@s!

    Add to this the delightful, tropical area with our vibrant cafe society, it is a puzzle to me why no-one wants to play for us.

    Lets not forget the adoring, uncritical supporters who are always the extra man - that extra goal - every week we are at home....

    No wonder we have to pay over the odds for anyone to come.

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  2. bonnybobbypark

    bonnybobbypark Well-Known Member

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    I'm M'Onin

    Matin O'Neill in

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    Really?
     
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  4. Moorsleymountainman

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    Got to say some 95%, maybe more want MON to succeed. However I would say 100% wouldn't give a **** who was manager as long as he succeeded. For a SAFC fan success would be a top ten, maybe a manger who tried to win a cup instead of talking it up and putting out a ****e team when the game came along. A manager who doesn't insult the fans (Kean)' embarrass the club and the fans with no strikers (Bruce) or a manager who can't see ****e when every one of 40,000 can (MON). If it's a Cockney in a chicken suit, a Geordie in a sumo suit (LOL)or even a cross dressing Yorkshireman I don't give a frig who the manager is. So yes I want MON to do the biz. BUT FOR ME THE BIZ STARTS AND ENDS WITH NORWICH. If we win role on, if we lose, time to go. football is a results business, not a time business and it "might" come good business. No good sticking with a (good) manager if we are going down...last chance saloon.
     
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  5. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Go on, thats fired me right up that

    haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
     
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  6. bonnybobbypark

    bonnybobbypark Well-Known Member

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    If I was martinez, or him from lambert, or, say, Lennon, Clough - whoever...

    I would look at the prospects. We not only expect to win, we demand we win with style. So thats the likes of Wenger and Mourinio excluded (stupid but true, AND I KNOW they wouldn't look at us anyway) too!

    O'Neill isn't in the last chance saloon for me. He didn't bring in out of date manure extra's or midfielders from teams relegated. He has paid supposedly £12m? for a striker with a return of 11 goals this season and a mis-firing England international winger. Start of the season we were all happy. I don't think our clarts are O'Neills doing.

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    He has had nearly a season and a half, in todays football that is plenty time to start putting your own spin on things and 3 transfer windows to start putting his team together.

    Cuellar, Saha, McFadden, Bridge, The Greek, Danny Graham, N'Diaye, Johnson, Rose, Fletcher

    That's the best he can come up with.

    It's not working, he has already a lot higher net spend than Bruce with nowhere near the quality Bruce seemed to bring in each window. My fear is that Ellis gives him another window and transfer kitty. He could leave us with no money, a **** squad and hurtling towards the championship (if we don't drop this summer). Basically, keeping O'Neill is a massive risk and one I will support if that's what Ellis goes with. I only hope he knows what he's doing.
     
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  8. shiney-mackem

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    If we are playing smart arse's Graham has 7 this season , Connor 2, and ji 1
     
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  9. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    i meant for us man
     
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  10. shiney-mackem

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    If we are playing smart arse's Graham has 7 this season , Connor 2, and ji 1
     
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  11. Poyet's Eleven

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    You surely aren't saying we should be satisfied with the way we've played this season, in terms of not only performance but general style of play? You're insults themselves are embarrassing... Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion, insulting them doesn't improve your view at all.

    I for one hate our style of play, our awful season and our lack of balance. MoN has to take blame for the first and last disappointment.

    For me it's not MoN out, not yet. He should have the extra summer window, if he spends a lot of money and we're still in the bottom half of the table playing ****e football by January he should go. No two ways about it imo

    But I wouldn't be bothered if he goes at the end of the season, provided someome is signed up, and they have the whole transfer window to improve us.
     
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  12. Gil T Azell

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    I blame putting the fans upstairs. We've lost 5 home games this season.
     
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  13. Poyets outburst

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    Brilid all I can say is ..... Are you cest are you cest are you cest in disguise ,this post is utter garbage the only important thing is safc and its survival I'm part of the oneil out crew so ****ing what ,I'm not uneducated just sick of ****e football and losing matches .
     
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  14. Commachio

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    MARTIN O’Neill says he understands how unhappy fans are at Sunderland’s recent disappointing run of results.

    But he says he will continue to manage in his own way as he looks to improve the squad and get better performances and results on the pitch.

    Up until a month ago, O’Neill had not experienced three league defeats in a row in his 14 months as Sunderland manager.

    Now he is in the midst of a run of four defeats in the last five games; a sequence of just one win in the last eight with just five points taken from the last 24.

    On top of that, performances during that run have been patchy with new arrival Kader Mangane yet to feature and fellow January signings Danny Graham and Alfred N’Diaye slow to convince.

    The Premier League remains a learning curve for the 23-year-old Frenchman while Graham could really do with a goal after three starts and two substitute appearances drew a blank.

    But O’Neill hopes Sunderland fans will eventually see an upturn in performances and results and that things will come start coming together.

    “Criticism is inevitable if you are in football management,” he told the Gazette.

    “What you try to do is work out the best system for the players you have at the football club.

    “We said before that we have relied very heavily this season on Steven Fletcher scoring the goals, more so than we should have done.

    “We needed some sort of experienced player in there alongside him.

    “I thought Danny fitted the bill, and I do believe that he will get goals when he gets fully match fit. He’ll prove a handful.

    “That fitness is something that was missing from his game when he came to us because he didn’t play that much for Swansea.”

    The Sunderland manager does appreciate though that time is running out on the season. And he says he never felt Sunderland were comfortable in the league – even after a run of three wins out of four in December seemed to have dispelled fears.

    “We have to try to win some matches now, that’s what it’s all about,” he said.

    “I’m not relaxed about things. I’m always concerned.

    “You must concern yourself.

    “If you are in the bottom half of the table you are always looking over your shoulder – I’m not the only manager thinking that.

    O’Neill still feels however that Sunderland could easily have had plenty of points more on the board had they had the rub of the green in some of the recent games in their bad run.

    “There are a lot of games that you play during the course of the season where it is all about fine lines,” he reflected.

    “Of course there are some games where you can dominate from start to finish and win two or three nil - chances are that that happens to the likes of Man United and Man City regularly.

    “But against teams in the middle of the table especially it can be very close and just go either way and we’ve just been on the receiving end of a few of those that haven’t gone our way.

    “Now we’ve got to go out there and edge some of these games in our favours because it’s all about getting points on the board - at this stage of the season especially – and that’s all we’re focused on.
     
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  15. Cest Advocaat

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    Can I join you mate?

    This has not been a vintage season by any stretch and not everything he has done has been entirely understandable at times but I still support and admire the bloke. He hasn't suddenly become a ****e manager overnight and has the track record, background and experience to turn this round.

    I desperately want him to succeed here and hope he can.
     
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  16. T.P

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    I strongly believe MON will come good given time. 14 months is nowhere near enough it will take 2-3 years to build a stable and successful team.
     
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    Deluded ****er talking about fine lines and could have more points. We have been complete horse **** and haven't deserved anything from the games lately and I would argue, we are lucky to have as many points as we do.
     
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  18. Redandwhiteoxford

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    We are well within our right to question MON - There is not too many shouting for his head from what I've read. I think the majority of us on here would just like to know what the hell he's doing and what his actual plan of playing style is.

    Because we can't see what he's trying to do on the pitch and he hasn't pubilcally said what he's doing or plans to do (which he doesn't have to do) everyone is scratching their heads trying to understand it. Thus the poor performance on the pitch are having a major knock on effect and the fans are losing faith in what they see.

    This is only fair for the fans to speak up as he is only a manager and we will see many more in our life time.

    Sunderland have no identity and MON is trying to bring that to the club I'm sure of it. It' just looks like we haven't got one to date and that is what fans are questioning.

    This is my take on the situation.
     
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  19. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    why not say win? i forgot about people sometimes blame luck aswel :emoticon-0138-think

    Uninspiring interview imho
     
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  20. Cest Advocaat

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    “We needed some sort of experienced player in there alongside him."

    I think he was actually talking about why he brought Danny Graham in tbh.


    "Deluded ****er talking about fine lines and could have more points. We have been complete horse **** and haven't deserved anything from the games lately and I would argue, we are lucky to have as many points as we do. "

    This is the kind of comment that shows us up to be ****ing idiots tbh again.
     
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