http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-21586453 An email from South Yorkshire's chief constable about the Hillsborough families' campaign has been strongly criticised by the police watchdog. David Crompton said the families' "version of certain events has become 'the truth' even though it isn't". His email in September was sent days before the Hillsborough report. The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said the comments were "at best ill judged and at worst offensive and upsetting". Mr Crompton's email to his senior staff read: "One thing is certain - the Hillsborough Campaign for Justice will be doing their version... in fact their version of certain events has become 'the truth' even though it isn't!! "I just have the feeling that the media 'machine' favours the families and not us, so we need to be a bit more innovative in our response to have a fighting chance otherwise we will just be roadkill." Chief apologises The internal email, which came to light following a Freedom of Information request, was sent as part of South Yorkshire Police's preparations for the publication of the Hillsborough Independent Panel report last year. When the report was published, it provoked widespread condemnation of the force's response to the disaster at Sheffield Wednesday's ground in April 1989, which left 96 Liverpool fans dead. South Yorkshire Police's response to the tragedy is currently subject to a major inquiry by the IPCC. In a brief statement on Tuesday, South Yorkshire Police said: "The chief constable apologises for this email and the force continues to give its full support to the ongoing inquiries." This followed an apology from Mr Crompton last week when he said he had not intended "to challenge the integrity and views of those who lost loved ones in the Hillsborough disaster". Last month, the Police and Crime Commissioner of South Yorkshire, Shaun Wright, wrote to the IPCC when he was made aware of the email. IPCC Commissioner Nicholas Long said he had now written to the chief constable to express his concerns about the content. He said: "Families and individuals affected by the Hillsborough tragedy, along with the wider public, will rightly be concerned over the apparent attitude displayed by this communication within the highest ranks of the force which is currently under investigation in relation to the actions of its officers and staff around the disaster." But Mr Long said that while "these emails have serious implications for public confidence" they do not amount to recordable conduct and the IPCC does not require a formal referral. He said he had told Mr Wright it was his responsibility to decide what further action was appropriate.
"This followed an apology from Mr Crompton last week when he said he had not intended "to challenge the integrity and views of those who lost loved ones in the Hillsborough disaster"." So, it is acceptable to challenge the veracity of the Independent Panel (including a Bishop) who produced the report based upon documents released to them form a variety of organisations (incl. SYP) according to Mr. Crompton. It has to be so if he was not challenging the integrity and views of the family (who at that stage had not seen the report!). Hence SYP are holding themselves to be the only purveyors of truth and understanding when the have been proved beyond reasonable doubt not to be so. Now the Lawrence Inquiry proved institutional racism against the Met. The IPCC must now find SYP in total and it's leadership unfit to perform its duties to police the people of South Yorkshire due to its institutionalised spirit of self-preservation.
"to challenge the integrity and views of those who lost loved ones in the Hillsborough disaster"." no just call them liars. "One thing is certain - the Hillsborough Campaign for Justice will be doing their version... in fact their version of certain events has become 'the truth' even though it isn't!! Typical type of old establishment scumbag who should be long since binned.
[h=1]DCC David Crompton[/h] please log in to view this image Page last updated 24th February 2013 at 2330 To the eyes of most of the UK – and beyond - Sir Norman Bettison is a bigger villain than David Crompton. But the latter fully deserves his place at the top table of Rogue Officers. The two of them worked closely together at West Yorkshire Police, between 2006-2012, and uPSD say they are both very much of a kind. Each of them demonstrably the type of dodgy cops of which the police service needs to quickly purge itself - if it is to retain the confidence of an increasingly despairing public: Highly fond of themselves and prepared to indulge criminal acts to get their own way, avoid so-called ‘reputational damage’ and conceal the truth from an unsuspecting public. These are very strong words – and highly emotive – but perfectly justifiable on all the evidence before uPSD. We are more than happy to have that tested in any public forum, or Court, of Crompton’s own choosing. David Crompton, son of disgraced ex-HMIC Sir Dan Crompton should never have been allowed to take up a Chief Constable’s role anywhere, let alone in South Yorkshire, where they were always going to face a firestorm of criticism concerning Hillsborough. But SYP were desperate and he was being plugged for the role by Labour Party contacts close to the appointing body, South Yorkshire Police Authority. Once Stuart Hyde withdrew his candidacy to take up the Chief’s role at Cumbria, South Yorkshire Police and Crompton were stuck with each other. Some may even say, deserve one another. Crompton features in a number of high profile uPSD Case Studies where his incompetence, poor judgement and preparedness to go to any lengths to suppress the truth are a recurring feature. Crompton was a key player in concealing sustained racial discrimination against BME officers at West Yorkshire Police (read here) and operated Kangaroo Courts in the cases of Danny Major, theGary Marsden-I’Anson case and the Cross Border Team debacle, in which 35 police years were needlessly lost through unwarranted suspensions. This cost the West Yorkshire taxpayer almost £1.5 million. He was also a key player in the attempt to reduce or remove pensions from retired Injured on Dutyofficers that ended up costing the police hundreds of thousands of pounds, another High Court drubbing and the legal costs to go with it. More significantly, he spent four years as part of the Command Team at West Yorkshire Police who deliberately obstructed the North Yorkshire Police external enquiry into Operation Douglas. This was the notorious, and now nationally-known, sustained and widespread corruption that went on right under the nose of Crompton’s father, also a uPSD Rogue Chief, and an HM Inspector of Constabulary in Wakefield at the material time. David Crompton also, quite astonishingly, promoted Supt John Holt to be his assistant AFTER Holt’s central role in the massive scandal had been made very clear, inside the Force, by the external police force investigators from North Yorkshire Police. Holt was the chief denigrator and obstructor of the NYP enquiry, aided and abetted by Crompton. What a tangled web was woven by the Crompton family in Wakefield. There is more to follow concerning one of Crompton’s very first acts as a Chief Constable, which was to try and bury a perjury/perverting the course of justice complaint against one of his own South Yorkshire officers, PC 480 Gary Garner. Aided and abetted by his Head of Professional Standards, DCS Neil Jessop, who is one of the 1,444 Hillsborough officers referred to the IPCC. Crompton himself was under investigation by an outside police force – and monitored by IPCC – at the time of publication of the Hillsborough Independent Panel Report (September 12th 2012). This investigation had commenced in May 2012 and followed allegations made against him by the former Legal Services Director at West Yorkshire Police. A fact he conveniently forget to mention to reporters, TV Crews and millions of readers/viewers around the UK, and beyond, on the fateful day. Crompton is now famously exposed by the Daily Star as needing ‘a hug and re-assurance’ from ACPO’s Sir Hugh Orde on the momentous day that the Hillsborough Independent Panel Report was published. We would have said a bucket of ice cold water to wake him up would have been more prescriptive. Crompton didn’t even know who Margaret Aspinall was until Mark Thompson, Head of Media at SYP reminded him: “David, she’s chair of the Hillsborough Family Support Group. She lost her 18-year-old son James in the disaster.” Readers will draw their own conclusions from that gaffe. Very recently, even worse has emerged as Crompton has been forced to apologise as emails, that he had tried desperately to conceal from public view for the past three months, were forced into the public domain. He accused a group representing Hillsborough families of “lying”, it has now emerged. He made the comments in the offending email four days before the publication of the Panel report in September 2012. He said the families’ “version of certain events has become ‘the truth’ even though it isn’t“. Crompton has not specified what falsehoods he was referring to and has refused to make himself available to answer any further questions. Which is typical of the man known as a “walking disaster” at his previous Force. Or “Duck and Dive David”. Crompton emailed the force’s Assistant Chief Constable Andy Holt (also ACPO lead for football policing matters), and Mark Thompson (see above) on 8th September 2012, four days before theHillsborough Independent Panel Report was released. The offensive email was ordered to be disclosed by the South Yorkshire Police & Crime commissioner, Shaun Wright, following a Freedom of Information request by the Daily Star’s Jonathan Corke. The game was up for Crompton as soon as that decision was reached. The Police Commissioner said the Independent Police Complaints Commission and the Home Secretary, Theresa May, had both been informed of the existence of the email and he was “disappointed at the use of such language” by Crompton. IPCC Commissioner Nicholas Long concurred and noted that the content of David Crompton’s email was “at best ill judged, and at worst offensive and upsetting” In the email, Mr Crompton asked for a meeting with Mr Holt and Mr Thompson to discuss launching a web page about Hillsborough, with links to documents including previous apologies and memos. He continued: “We then publicise it on Twitter. In effect, it amounts to the case for the defence. One thing is certain – the Hillsborough Campaign for Justice will be doing their version… in fact their version of certain events has become ‘the truth’ even though it isn’t“. Really? Crompton concludes “I just have the feeling that the media ‘machine’ favours the families and not us, so we need to be a bit more innovative in our response to have a fighting chance, otherwise we will just be roadkill.” Professor Phil Scraton, author of the iconic book the ‘Hillsborough – The Truth’ and, of course, principal author of the Hillsborough Independent Panel (HIP) report said after reading Crompton email and apology: “As the Panel’s Report showed, the phrases used by the Chief Constable such as ‘missing a trick’, ‘case for the defence’ and ‘fighting chance’ demonstrate a mind-set that prevailed in the Force at the time of Hillsborough. “In content, language, presentation and style his comments reflect the defensive, disingenuous damage limitation that typified senior officers’ responses in the aftermath of the disaster and revealed by the Panels’s research”. Prof Scratonadded: “Whatever his eventual public statement of apology, just days before the Report was published, behind the scenes he remained concerned only with preserving the reputation of his Force”. It was, of course, a reputation severely impugned by the actions South Yorkshire Police’s own senior officers at the time. So the burning question is now: Will Shaun Wright’s actions, as their Police Commissioner, in forcing this issue into the light prompt the hapless, and hopeless, Mark Burns-Williamson into doing the same with an officer alleged to have been central in such impugning of the families’ reputations? Bettison’s Hillsborough emails, which West Yorkshire Police are doing their level best to conceal, were requested at the same time as their South Yorkshire counterparts. Again the requestor was the enterprising Jonathan Corke of the Daily Star. http://www.upsd.co.uk/david-crompton/
certainly becoming that way RHC. i got into a lot of trouble when i was younger and i remember many of the older generation of coppers just say don't be stupid lad, give me a verbal bollocking and let me off. now days there seems to be some merit to having the most arrests even if it is obviously a load of bollocks why you have been arrested, you have to prove your innocence first. before anyone starts i haven't been in trouble for about 15 years, i just know people who have been on the wrong end of it some how.
Coppers are careerists, when your career becomes more important that than the actual job you are doing then corruption in inevitable. Work becomes more important than daily family life for these people. Look at the worst. Corporate ****ers Coppers Politicians Is it any surprise most of the worst people in society are in the above three categories. Integrity A word often used but a trait seldom if ever present in a careerist
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...police-restrictions-mean-miss-away-match.html Police again showing how f**kin clueless they are Wigan game on Saturday, LFC gets 4500 tickets, when we could fill the ground if allowed.WAFC would love to sell out, but the local police tell them you cant,all it would take is rehousing a couple of thousand WAFC season ticket holders in 1 stand for 1 game which WAFC could organise and then give us 2 stands, but the police wont allow it.So stadium will be half full as usual. If the police had there way they would make it illegal for you to leave your f**kin house.
good point ddddddd, think the FA need to take a look at this, as the Police have far too much say on safety issues and if a club relies on attendance figures to survive and they go out of business because of it, then what? not relevant, but years ago i used to be a fire steward and i found it staggering that the Police tell the club when they can close the turnstiles, may have changed now, but i thought surely that is the clubs responsibility.
A little story for you Jenners. When my Dad was a kid in Liverpool, there used to be this old bloke (like me!) who lived down the street. When he was playing footie in the street with his mates, the ball would sometimes go over his wall and he never gave them the ball back. One day, my Dad and his mate put a huge pile of dogshit is a paper bag, put it on his doorstep, set it on fire and knocked on the bloke's door. He came out, stamped on the bag and got dogshit all over his foot. Coppers were local in those days, so the following day, the local plod collared my Dad. He said, and I quote my dearly departed old feller "Do you want to go over my knee, or do you want me to tell your Dad?". My Dad obviously chose option 1. Things were simple in those days and even pigs were slightly human. Forget it now
Good auld days. Local plods used to know everyone in the area, now they only know the scumbags. The Wire covered that issue well. Good local policing prevents crime and certainly prevents stupid issues escalating to feuds.
