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O/T HMS Illustrious Aircraft Carrier to be moored in Hull

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Hank Scorpio, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. WhittlingStick

    WhittlingStick Well-Known Member

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    Princess Quay , is indeed a **** in the eye to anyone that loves our cit
    Some other crimes by the council include :-

    Wilis Ludlow/Alders/Primark building and the KC eyesore nowt wrong with what was there

    Most of whats been lost on George Street including that **** thing that used by Hull college near Pozition

    The custard pie that is that awful building/frontage on Whitefriargate between Burtons and Crawshaws

    What was wrong with Queen Anne Hall ?

    What was wrong with the old HDM Printing buildings ??

    What in the name of god was wrong with the Warehouses on Castle St ? ? all thats there now is a patch of grass (next to ASK )

    What was wrong with the grand houses on Anlaby road Opp Coltman St , why turn it all into a ****y carpark

    bring on the Aircraft carrier
     
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  2. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Next season? Surely you mean Newcastle, sun land Liverpool, Everton Cardiff Swansea, bit of a piss up in Newquay, Southampton, London clubs up the Thames , Norwich n home piece of piss.
     
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  3. andy payton's mullet

    andy payton's mullet Well-Known Member

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    Beat me to it Chazz.
     
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  4. TigerJools

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    Is it a coincidence that they have cleared the mud out of the old dry dock near The Deep - the one the floating nightclub used to be in.
    Not that it looks big enough to me.
     
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  5. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Another option for wealthy footballers to land when they come to view / sign for Hull City AFC. <ok>


    Well its different and wont hurt will it ? :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  6. rileyoldboy

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    Could use the catapult on Jimmy Bollard.
     
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  7. BrAdY

    BrAdY Well-Known Member

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    That is for a new part of the Deep i believe, and no way it will fit in there!
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Are you talking about the bit on the opposite bank of the Hull? (I can't remember where the nightclub ferry used to be, but it didn't float did it? I thought it was just stood there is a muddy dock)
     
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  9. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    Roughly behind the Oberon (RIP), off Blackfriargate.....
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I thought's that where it was.

    It would certainly be good to do something with that area and join the fruit market area with The Deep and pull people further into the city.
     
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  11. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    I agree - especially when its sorrounded by the countrys most magnificent landscapes

    please log in to view this image
     
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  12. geoffrv8

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    "Realistically the ship needs to be moored in the centre but there is a real shortage of usable moorings for a 700ft long ship. There is no point sticking her down Hedon Road in King George Dock because nobody will go out of town and I doubt she will fit through the lock gates.

    I can only see two places for her to be moored. Either moored next to Victoria Pier but I doubt the conservation lot would want the view lost by an aircraft carrier or the river side (south side) of Albert Dock where Harding Cargo Handling is. Its deep enough water and can easily fix some dolphins to hold her in place.

    It has to be walking distance from the city centre!"


    Realistically Speaking!!!

    1. The ship is too large both in beam and length to pass through any lock gates in any dock in Hull. This means it would have to be moored in the river and to permit regular, full day access it would have to be moored onto a floating pier or jetty. The ship would have to be accessible to the disabled so the visitors would have to have access to internal elevators and across watertight bulkhead openings.

    2. Floating piers and jetties cost MEGA money.

    3. Ships have to be maintained. For a vessel of this size an annual budget of £100, 000 would just about cover the cost of the above waterline paint. Then there is the steelwork replacement, the vessels generators (if on it's own power) and pumps etc. for sanitary and washdown purposes etc. etc.

    4. Ships have to be drydocked periodically to inspect the underwater surfaces and repaint with anti-fouling and anti-corrosive coatings. It is too big to be drydocked anywhere in the Humber so will have to be towed to somewhere where it can be drydocked. i.e the Tyne, possibly the Weir or even a continental port. More MEGA money.

    5. If a new pier were to be built there would have to be a considerable amount of silt removed by dredging to give the necessary depth of water for the ships draft. Then the area below the ship would have to be maintained silt free and that is more BIG money. Plus clearing the channel each time the vessel were to be moved out for drydocking - even more BIG money.

    6. Who would staff the ship? It would not be sufficient to put on board a night watchman or a caretaker like they have at the other council owned facilities. There would have to be certificated deck and engineer officers in case of problems with fire, or breaking adrift or accident and trained and qualified personnel for cleaning etc. More BIG money.

    7. If the ship were to be on shore power it would reduce the maintenance and fuel bill for on board generators. That's a plus but who would foot the power company bill? More MEGA money.

    8. The towage fees to move the vessel here plus the costs associated with converting it to be it safe in the eyes of the Health and Safety, with wheelchair accessibility and adequate fire exits to the shore would itself bankrupt the council.

    9. Finally and because I have run out of time , not out of points of note or concern, don't forget the cost of marine insurance, registration and survey all of which will be necessary if the vessel is to have visitors on board. Then we have the councils own Health and Safety "officers"...say no more.


    The truth is the project is ill conceived, has not been thought through and is totally beyond the financial resources of a city who's council even cannot afford to keep all of their public libraries open.
     
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  13. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Thats what i thought too........
     
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  14. andy payton's mullet

    andy payton's mullet Well-Known Member

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    Is BIG money more or less than MEGA money?
     
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  15. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Apart from that, it's a really good idea though. :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Mega's definitely bigger.
     
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  17. andy payton's mullet

    andy payton's mullet Well-Known Member

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    Let's go for the BIG money options then - saves money <ok>
     
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  18. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Geoff, doesn't all that presuppose it's IN the water?
     
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  19. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Instead of pie in the sky as me n geoff thought??
     
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  20. andy payton's mullet

    andy payton's mullet Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but force fields to levitate her cost MEGA MEGA money
     
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