Something QPAAAAGH wrote earlier in the week really hit home with me. It was on the line of the only supporters who still have any hope of us staying up are those watching from abroad or those who don't go as often as others (like me). Being so wrapped up in my own little world, I'd not really considered the pain of the season ticket holders and the pitiful return you've all got for your investment. To keep coming week in, week out with ever diminishing hopes for a goal let alone a positive result must be galling. Even if the club don't appreciate your efforts, other among us do. At the end of last season Brixton and I discussed getting season tickets for this season. They were all sold out before get as low as us in the priorities list. It looks like we had a lucky escape. I'm still looking forward to coming up for the Sunderland match in a couple of weeks time, how many of you are? Regardless though, you will be there, I salute you all.
Cheers Roller. It becomes more difficult with every game mate. It's the kids that we take with us that I feel sorry for. How can we inspire a new generation of hoopsters when they have to put up with this rubbish week in week out? By the time the Sunderland game comes around we won't have scored a home league goal for for two and a half months!!!! Let alone a win. Come to think of it, even the odd ooh or ahh would be nice. We haven't even had any of them.
Evening Roller. Its not been an easy experience, but I feel more for the boy, who has still only seen us win once in the flesh in the prem, at least I have memories of better times. And for those blokes who go to the away games as well - the lads who sit next to us went down to Swansea - 6 hour journey back on the train, apparently Rs fans were fighting each other. Wherever we end up, it will be a tricky decision to renew next year - if we lived round the corner no problem, but the idea of 23 home games in the championship does not fill me with enthusiasm, as each one takes up most of the day getting there and back. And there are lots of easy away games for me to get to. Prem I will probably renew for, on the grounds that it can't be as bad as this year........ 1 win and 8 goals at home. Jesus Christ.
Im a STH and thing we havent got a hope, this is likely my last season too as its just too depressing to watch, I think the last goal I saw us score was boxing day and the last away team to score before Man U was boxing day too. Its the 2.5 hour journey each way that kills it for me. I might do the odd away game in the NPC like Brighton and hopefully Reading and Saints. The only way I would be tempted to renew is if they offered a massive early bird savings but I dont think the club can afford it.
This is the kind of thread TF really should read. ST holders having doubts over renewing is very bad news for the club, its very difficult to win back customers you have lost, even in the perverted world of football loyalty. As a direct to consumer marketer he will know the risks. Not sure what he can do about it now though.
Roller, I don't only feel sorry for the season ticket holders. I feel sorry for all the punters. The one off punters, the occasional punters, the home and away punters. THE LOT. As people have said above, the club faces a massive job to get supporters to renew season tickets and memberships for next season. I won't renew until I see at least 10 of our grossly overpaid players out the door. The likes of SWP, Park, Barton etc.The higher the wage they are on, the better.
It's been like death by a thousand cuts Roller. As Sb and nines said, it's the kids that I really feel for. At least my two sons saw us win promotion and then that great run at the end of last season to keep us up. My eldest decided not to renew this year........what a good decision that was!
Too much on in life for me to get a ticket nowadays however I have made six games. I can't see myself pushing to get another ST anytime soon as I hope to be France twice a month next year . I will state this if you have brought one last year then you must have thought about it before hand and could afford it Because we are losing and are the worse team in the division you of course have the right to ponder however introducing statement of returns against investment is a sad reflection on how the game is going It's a choice I understand but don't like to hear. Ok these are dark days but to get into football but I am willing to bet that as time turns another page you will all do it again. I have paid 80 quid to watch a game this year and a day out always tops 200 as my boys don't bring money For the buzz I get for 90 minutes win or lose ... Worth every penny I have been dismayed at some of the fans I have met the last two seasons Racists Chavs and complete idiots That is a better decision maker for me I hope the core get back and it hasn't helped with the changes at the ground Football always needs that no go area for family but I doubt if that will return because this is a entertainment business now ... We got pulled to one side at the end of the Norwich game in Z6 by a steward who couldn't even speak English that well because we told another fat **** to get out the way we couldn't see as the jobs worth marched across behind the goal line I go to football to have banter and hurl abuse at the visiting fans ... We are turning into fickle sheep I go for football passion and that tingle you get renewed every week ... Even in France match days dictate what I do most of the time and even then I crave to be at LR when I am in paradise I understand the doubt s but I am more worried about the soul of the fan base Anyone plug into that We are the rangers boys stand up and make some noise for those you get there then in my book that is your duty and our foundation and rep has been built upon our fall from the big time and our history Being QPR is about laughing at everything the shutters chuck at all and still stand The game is dying and whomping out because this player didn't do this or that is frankly very poor in my book We should be together on this and there aren't many of us left
Really? But wouldn't he consider it to be "stick", which he'd then use to justify an implied threat, via Twitter, to walk away from the club? This, of course, would be followed by a ton of people blowing smoke up his arse. "We love you, Tony." etc. etc.
Dave, I really don't get what point you are trying to make here. Are you having a go at ST holders who may not be there next season? If there is one thing that is evident from the posts above its the heaviness of heart that some of us have even thinking about not renewing. Nobody has talked about 'return on investment', though this would be perfectly valid in my opinion. Personal circumstances, like yours, dictate attendance. Grown ups make choices. Money is important and so is time. I have never complained about the cash or time being an ST holder has cost me - my choice. Like you I love live football, and wherever I have lived I have sought it out. The company and the laugh (even if it is increasingly black humour) are definitely the high spots of this season. I still believe, even last Saturday, that any result is possible before a ball is kicked (and usually up until the last few minutes of the game). But this is a two way street. I demand to be entertained, and apart from two wonderful Adel goals and some great Cesar saves this has been in very short supply from my team this season. And to be honest, the majority of visiting teams haven't filled me with awe either - Liverpool the best by a mile, Southampton for their spirit and fans, Jason Roberts for a classic away CF performance, and the incisive Swans of course. Rest as bland as us, but able to keep the ball better. (OK, Utd didn't break into a sweat, so can't judge them). I would feel differently if this was a team which had no investment, which we knew would be plucky underdogs from day one. But it isn't. As you have repeatedly said, on paper this is possibly the strongest squad we have ever had. I agree. We have a manager who is meant to be one of, if not the, best English manager in the game. I am not in the mood to be generous or make excuses for them anymore. Loyalty is a virtue, but blind loyalty? Rs can take my undying support for granted for as long as I live. But I feel, rightly or wrongly, that my support and loyalty is being abused a bit at the moment.
Great post as ever Roller. I've been a season ticket holder for a good few years and to be honest i wouldn't change it for the world. Ive seen enough good times to pay off for the bad and it's not just about the football for me, more about the social and seeing my mates and my boys for a bit of 'father/sons' bonding. I got divorced from their mum when they were very young and through Rangers I've managed to have a real bond with my kids and pass the mantle for the future generations to (hopefully) carry on supporting the R's for years to come. I'd like to hope we will still be doing the same, whatever division we play in, for many years to come.
Yes, I can identify with this. I take my two boys and it is great to have a lads day out with them every fortnight. I will renew next season whatever division.
Said I understand the frustration I understand it all but that is what this is SB73 and as a man that travels you know only too well that being there and pinching yourself right here right now before a ball is kicked is the buzz. I must state I have nothing against any QPR fan anywhere on this wonderful planet we are all brothers ... if i was making a point it was everyman has a right to weigh up the purchase if they can even get a purchase (there is a small point there re demand if you think about it) but there's little point in my opinion of looking for any value. If you have the opportunity and time to give our club the routine support and get the buzz first hand buy the ticket. This is of course a massive disappointment given the promise we all brought into but good dreams and bad dreams is teh best any of us can wish for and thats is the nail on the head right there ... wishing on a star but knowing it could go either way. You will recover my friend as I imagine you know more than most how those expectant miles full of hopes and wishes can turn into poop. From the womb to the tomb there is a reason for all this... The Queens Park Rangers journey
I've lost my 13 year old this year. Part of it is being a teenager but most of all he has lost interest and doesn't want to be aligned with a bunch of losers. My 11 year old is still keen but for how long?
Cheers Dave, I get it. I used to love the days when you could roll up and get a ticket on the gate. If divorce will improve my match day experience with the boy, I'm willing to give it a go. But doubt I could afford the tickets and the alimony. Of course, going to the game with my son is worth every second, just as it was when I went with my Dad in the 70s. Just wish the poor lad could see us play some of the football I saw then.
