Don't know where all the Giroud hate is coming from because of 1 bad game, but whatever. And we don't have quality players? Is Wilshere not a leader?
He is a 21 year old kid that is still developing. Chelsea had players that were winners (Drogba,Terry,Lampard and Cech) and knew how to win in those big games. Wilshere does not have that, yet.
There's that 1 game memory again. If our last game was good, everything's fine and we're an awesome team. If our last game is bad, it's just "1 bad game". Giroud had a few decent games at the end of January. Before and after he's been pretty awful. This perpetual appeasement of our ****ness is long past annoying. We lose in the FA Cup and suddenly the competition doesn't matter? It should matter because it was our one chance of a trophy. As for 4th place, what good is a "50 million windfall" if we never spend it?
What good will it do us? It's not on the level of the Champions League, it's not on the level of the Premier League; it's predominately a trophy for the mid table teams that's normally won by a half arsed effort from a top team, why should we be settling for mediocrity? There are better things to achieve than the FA Cup.
I think all our efforts should be focused on what's more important at the moment, and that's finishing inside the top 4. I don't know, he's done it the past with superior teams.
Gutted to be knocked out of any comp to be honest. But We've got a big game against Bayern this coming week and that is the real focus. To answer the OP, I think this defeat has affected some of our fans more that it will our team
I agree with him, we do get the rough end of decisions from a lot of refs. Nothing to obvious, just making sure decisions are given to stop us tackling and not given at the other end. Decisions for us are generally given further back down the pitch when it doesnt help us as much and aagainst us to stop our attacks or fouls given when we try to stop theirs. If you cant see that you should have gone to Specsavers.
The FA Cup hasn't mattered to me for quite some time. So you are valuing a trophy that does nothing for the club over achieving European football? In the future, if we finish outside the top 4 but we won the FA Cup, it'll at first show a lack of quality in our team, so to get quality back we'd have to sign quality players, so we go into the transfer market and we try to sign a guy like Santi Cazorla, but wait, he's got an offer from Tottenham as well, they finished in the top 4, so they get European football, who do you think he's going to join? I'm telling you, the moment we start valuing trophies like the FA Cup and Capital One Cup over European football, is the day we begin our long toward spiral à la Liverpool.
I think you're probably right. But i still stand by us needing to win something, anything really. Unless we taste victory, how else will they develop into a team that will challenge. IF they continue to lose, and that to opposition a few levels below them at home, then they will get used to it. How long before this affects our brightest star in the team, Wilshere?
Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm annoyed with people dismissing this defeat by dismissing the value of the competition. It glosses over the fact that we're not good enough to rest a few players and remain in this tournament at home against lower league opposition. The FA Cup may not be quite as important for Arsenal's future as the Champions League, but winning it would show our players what it means to win something, and that confidence could be just as valuable as having a new Cazorla-esque player. I hate to say it, but we're closer to Liverpool than we are to United, and that makes me sick as a parrot.
FA Cup or League Cup does not matter, we can't win the PL or CL, so we just trudge along season after season doing the same thing. It was five years without a trophy in 2010, and in 2015 it will be 10 years without a trophy if Wenger is allowed to carry on. The fact that Wenger can't manage his squad better to get top four and win something says all you need to know about his management. There does not need to be a choice, a better manager can do both.
Very true. Another bad season, but this time we can't blame it on injuries. We have a full squad for a change. No we didn't lose against Man U, or Man City, or Chelsea.........we lost against Blackburn at home with a full squad at our disposal. What is even more worrying is that our team is playing the best it has for quite some time.....
To be fair I did the same last season under AVB but there comes a time when it just keeps on happening no matter who the ref is and you just have to accept the team and manager aren't good enough. I've always said the easiest way to tell how good a manager is, is by looking at rival fans perception of them (as crazy as it sounds). There is a reason why Chelsea haters want Benitez to stay There is a reason why Arsenal haters want Wenger to stay There is a reason why United haters want Fergie to leave I'll be honest as good as Wenger has been for half his Arsenal career, I want him to stay, I felt if he had left his post at the end of the 08/09 season (as he should have IMO) you'd be in a far better position than you are now. That's all I'll say about Arsenal for now because quite frankly my club is a bigger joke.
