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Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Swarbs, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    We have been though that before, Chavs are Chavs from any part of the country, and Ski is used in Russian, ask Swarbs he is a Russian speaker
    and Chavski goes well together :)
     
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    Just like to point out that I stated months ago we would be debt free and some idiots following a local rival laughed it off.

    <OK>
     
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  3. Purley

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    So does the manure ;)
     
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  4. HRH Custard VC

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    Good for roses
     
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  5. Bodinki

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    No and No.
    Ski is used in Russia in so much as Mohammed is used in England.
    But Ski is Polish, everyone knows that :)
    Thats why I have always loved that nickname for us, firstly because the Sun invented it (lol), and secondly because it makes the people who call us it look like complete douchebags <laugh>
     
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  6. 606 not

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    <doh>.
     
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  7. Swarbs

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    Actually only ignorant westerners (usually Americans) with no knowledge of the Russian alphabet think that. They are generally the kind of people who pronounce Moscow in a way that rhymes with "cow". And use words like 'douchebags'...

    There are virtually no words in Russian which end &#1089;&#1082;&#1081; (sky). They only ever end &#1089;&#1082;&#1080; (ski) or &#1089;&#1082;&#1080;&#1081; (skiy).

    Russians themselves refers to Chelsea as &#1095;&#1077;&#1083;&#1089;&#1080; (Chelsi) or &#1095;&#1077;&#1083;&#1089;&#1082;&#1080; (Chelski)

    http://2london.info/usanka_celski.html
    http://ru-chelsea.livejournal.com/524953.html

    But don't worry, I'm sure you know Russian better than those complete Russian douchebags <ok>
     
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  8. Bodinki

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    Oh I am sorry, I didnt realise you were Russian, my apologies.
    I am no American, and couldnt give two ****s how the Russians refer to the football club I support.

    Some words in Russian end in Ski and Ski and Sea sound similar......very clever <applause>

    Are we really debating the Russian alphabet on a football forum, christ!
    Bottom line, it was something the Sun came up with 9 years ago, The Sun, an absolute abhorrent rag. And the ****wit that invented it is probably proud as **** with himself that football forum "DOUCHEBAGS" like yourself still quote him on a daily basis.

    Still, people usually try to emulate their betters.
     
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  10. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    -ski is associated with Poland more than Russia, in the West.

    And it is transliterated from the Russian alphabet anyway, so translators would know best, if anyone can make a definite call on it.

    If someone in Russia translates English to Russian, why would English douchebags know best how it reads in Russian. makes no sense
     
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  11. One of the lads

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    Post number 19 seems to have kicked off this "debate".
     
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  12. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    Translation is subjective, especially between two uncommon alpahbets, whether you have a Russian wife or not.

    The only thing we know in the West is that in general we associate -ski with Poland and -sky with Russia.

    Hugs
    Chelsky fan
     
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  13. Swarbs

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    I think you'll find it was the Guardian. It's a newspaper. One of the ones full of big words and with those big pages you must find hard to hold. You should try reading it, you might broaden your vocabulary <ok>
     
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  14. Swarbs

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    Actually it's not. My wife spent ten years getting paid very well to translate and transliterate from Russian into English and vice versa. To say transliteration is subjective is akin to claiming spelling is subjective.

    Well then consider this my little contribution to the global literacy of Chelski fans. I mean you've been worshipping the guy for a decade now, you should at least try to understand his language <ok>
     
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    Well how about this, we're an English club so this argument is a load of twaddle.
     
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  16. Cantbearsedwithnot606now

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    Purley so as not to dissapoint.....

    Youll be bankrupt in 5 years servicing all that debt that the evil American bastards lumbered you with. You'll never see any investment in your squad ever again!!!!

    There you go <magic>
     
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  17. Purley

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    what? <laugh>
     
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    So why are names like Dostoevsky or Dostoyevsky spelled sky?

    I guess a lot of Russian names were transliterated sky and some ski when they arrived at Ellis Island, whereas a lot of Polish surnames became ski
     
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  19. Cantbearsedwithnot606now

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    What a **** up, I meant "purely" rather than Purley.

    Sorry Purley.
     
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  20. Swarbs

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    Dunno about Ellis Island, I think it's just poor transliteration in general, combined with a tendency to try and anglicise the names. Garry Kasparov is the perfect example - his name in Russian is Garri (short for Garik), but ignorant English speakers just assume it should be spelt like Gary.

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    Dostoyevsky can be transliterated a number of ways. It actually ends in skiy, but again suffers from the English tendency to try and shorten everything and simplify it. His own biographer (who was his daughter) transliterated it as Dostoyevski, but over time the Anglicisation of the world means accuracy is less important that making it look right.

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    You might be right about the American thing tho' - just like 'aluminum' and 'math' Americans feel the need to miss letters out just to make things easier to remember...
     
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