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3 pieces of controversy.

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ThatThereSaintsFan, Feb 8, 2013.

  1. sharpshooter11

    sharpshooter11 New Member

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    1) Jack Wilshere is a more complete footballer then Xavi.
    2) Michael Owen is Englands greatest striker since Gary Linekar
    3) Artur Boruc is our best keeper since Niemi.
     
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  2. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

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    Shearer.
     
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  3. sharpshooter11

    sharpshooter11 New Member

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    Just about rate Owen higher. Done it abroad and if it wasn't for injuries would've smashed Charltons record.
     
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  4. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    People wanted controversial? I gave it. To answer though, it would help stop people from mis-managing clubs.
     
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  5. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    How would it be blistering if two counter attacking teams playing true counter attack, be exciting? You COULD have a stalemate with no-one making the first move. Barca and Spain play high pressure football when they haven't got the ball, which makes the game exciting as it forces errors. You may have noticed another team doing that today.

    The tikka takka football only happens because team keep men behind the ball. Pressure high and you don't need to counter as you win the ball back high up the pitch.
     
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  6. SamKimish

    SamKimish Well-Known Member

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    I'd disagree that the majority of people in this world like both Gary Neville AND Nicola Cortese but fair enough if you disagree.
     
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  7. TBD

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    1) has to be joke surely? Thats not controversial thats just ludricous. I dont know what you mean by complete perhaps theres some tiny aspect of his game which is better but Xavi is a genius who should and will be remebered as one of the all time great midfielders. What part of wilshire's game is superior to Xavi?
     
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  8. PO10Saint

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    You've just described Van Persie
     
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  9. sharpshooter11

    sharpshooter11 New Member

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    Xavi sits there spraying the ball around yes. But Wilshere is excellent on the ball, has unbelievable close control and dribbling ability and actually gets stuck in. For what it's worth I see Iniest as a million times better then Xavi and wouldn't put Xavi in the top 3 midfielders in the world.
     
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  10. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    1 & 2 are clearly bullshit, but 3 suggests you may not actually be a complete mug after all.
     
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  11. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Uh? I don't like Gary Neville but he is a good pundit and this your statement isn't controversial. Most people I know who don't like Gary Neville thinks he is a good pundit. It is possible to not like someone but think they are good at what they do.
     
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  12. RedandWhiteManofKent

    RedandWhiteManofKent Well-Known Member

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    I have started a new poll on my saints related one = keep the red shirts.

    As for other 2 I think

    The play off finals should be 3rd from bottom in one league v 3rd from top from the other league. I think it is daft that a team finishing 6th can get promoted.

    In non euros or world cup years bring back the home internationals league. The extra competition will be good for all 4 nations
     
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  13. Floating Bridge

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    1- Boateng was wrong to walk off the pitch after racist chants

    2- Referees should give drop balls in the penalty box if both teams are fouling each other during set pieces

    3- Rodriquez is equally as important if not more important than Lambert at the moment due to his work rate
     
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  14. SamKimish

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    Just because you agree with my statement doesn't mean it's not controversial.

    I happen to live with a someone who hates Neville and thinks his punditry says nothing insightful, just points out basic facts that every fan is aware of and makes the armchair supporter think he is god purely because he happened to say what they were thinking.

    But then again he is a Liverpool supporter.
     
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  15. Mikey

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    Van Persie does not have anywhere near the strength or aerial ability that Lambert does, he obviously has him beat in many areas but neither of those are not one them. He is quite accurate with headers when he gets into space but he rarely beats or bullies a large CB, which Rickie does for fun. I'd also say Lambert's got him beat or at the very least matched in passing ability. In terms of goal-scoring, positioning and raw technique, Van Persie is one of the very very best in the world and has Rickie well beat, but I'd say Lambert is the more complete player in the other attributes he brings to the table. And can I clarify before some silly sausage completely misunderstands my point, by 'more complete' I do not mean better player.
     
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  16. Beef

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    Wilshere may be a good player but injury or his ego getting to big will mean he will never become world class.
     
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  17. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    I know it's a consequence of being in the best condition of his life, but Rickie is definitely jumping higher this season than I can remember him doing before. By the time he's 40, he'll be doing backward flips to celebrate scoring!
     
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  18. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Er.... what???? If it's a foul it should be a penalty or a free kick.
     
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  19. MorgansBitOnTheSchneid

    MorgansBitOnTheSchneid Well-Known Member

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    Love reading through these old threads, I still stick to my 3 and beefy you were way off about moyes
     
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  20. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Think I was in St Malo for the time this thread had its head above water, 'cause I missed it entirely. Got a feeling this is going to be easy.

    By the way, I agree with the OP on controversial point 1 and I have a lot of sympathy for point 3. Point 2 is meh. Gareth Bale does it for me. OK, my points:

    1] I've never held mediocre Saints players in the esteem a Saints fan is supposed to, so honest hard workers like Brett Ormerod were always iffy to me. Tried hard, ran around a lot, but give me Kevin Philips [same time/team/era] any day. That said, I've never been a fan of mediocrity in my football club. It doesn't mean for a second that I would support another, but I don't celebrate mediocrity in football. I loathe relegation fights. That's just taking mediocrity to new lower levels. For me it is skill, imagination and brilliance, then hard work to bring success. And remember this, all football teams exist merely to get the chance of playing Saints one day. Some get the honour of doing it often. There's nothing mediocre about that.

    2] I have almost zero interest in what other clubs do unless it directly affects SFC. This means that I have practically zero interest in any competition that Saints are not involved in. Only very rarely am I bored enough to resume being the football fan I was from decades back. Usually I am a Saints fan and that's my limit. AFCB are getting what attention I have left, at the moment, plus any team involving Saints players. Hopefully you see the difference I'm making in Football v Saints fan. If I go to watch Saints they could just as well be playing Plymouth Argyle as say... Arsenal. I don't go to watch the opposition.

    3] And lastly SKY/Fox. I will never miss an opportunity to tell you how much I deplore that sh*t [I had the C word but replaced it] Rupert Murdoch and the way he wields his financial and political power while people behave like sheep and watch his channels. Of course, I will too when I choose [which is very rarely], but he won't get a penny out of me to sustain him. He's always worked to dirty rules and just for him so do I.
     
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