O/T Kingston’s image.

Hull has some good eateries, add more visitors and more will open. York and Leeds' eateries didn't all just open overnight, they opened when they realised there was money to be made.

Infrastructure, amenities and eateries can all be added to a city with money, history cannot. What Hull has in history money can't buy and places like Leeds would kill for a history like Hull's.

The reason York is able to attract plenty of visitors is because of 2 reasons: 1. It wasn't pummled by the Nazi's and 2. It get's lots of money from the government, ERDF European funding and (after Leeds) probably gets the biggest chunk from Welcome To Yorkshire, hence why even in Hull there are buses and trains plastered in advertisements for 'Visit York' and leaflet docks spread across Hull for 'Things to do in York'.

Hull needs to get it's vision together, showcase it as much as possible, then shout the loudest for European funding.

Leeds had what, 3 or 4 of the 10 burglary hotspots in the UK? and was voted man boob capital of the UK, yet these things don't add a negative image or stop people going shopping there, yet in a survey, Hull was recently voted 'Happiest place to live in the UK', but gets plenty of negative press... doesn't add up does it? It's all based on where gets money thrown at it enough.

 

Some but not all.

Help begins at home. This city doesn't help itself, with or without outside money.

Littering dirty oafs in HKR bobble hats, tracky bottoms and LFC managers coats (and that's just the lasses) throng town on a saturday. In other places, people make more of an effort. It's called self-respect, pride etc.

 

You miss the speech marks in the first post did you?

I didn't say they wanted it to be called wyke, rather I simply highlighted that it's original name is wyke, being a hamlet of myton.

 

Hull's far, far more than what was Wyke though, so some areas like Sculcoates, Stoneferry or Newland could also need their own names again.

Wasn't the actual County Kingston bigger than Wyke? I recall seeing a map of the Wappentake of Hullshire going beyond Ferriby and the area from Swanland to Raywell was inside the City boundary.

 

People tend to dress up more if they're going out somewhere, visiting somewhere, going for a meal etc... tourists/visitors tend to be in that bracket. As there are a lot less in Hull, others are more noticeable. I was in Manchester a few weeks back and there was loads of people dressed up, visiting the shops, but there was also loads of people in trackie bottoms and scraggy tops too, but I suppose they didn't stand out as much as there were more dressed up people about.

Manchester's Northern Quarter has good write-up's and a lot of buzz about it in the press... I spent most my weekend there. It was far more run down in parts than a lot of areas of Hull, yet had many multi-million pound glass & clad new builds in every direction you looked, so the derelict run down buildings weren't as noticeable as people are distracted by the fancy new buildings.

 

Some interesting stuff on here and a lot of proud Hullensians. Historically, 'Hull' was concocted by King Edward I when he purchased the vil of Wyk (or, le Wyk, a small hamlet) and the next-door manor of Myton from the monks of Meaux Abbey. Le Wyk and Myton were two independent areas, neither a subdivision of the other. The purchase was completed in March, 1293. The almalgamation of the two parcels of land was given the name Kyngeston super Hull by Edward I. Hull, as we know it, was never Wyke, though I would not wish to dismiss the historical connection. There never was an Archbishop John Wyke (where did that come from?). Hull was given its first royal charter to become a borough on 1 April, 1299. In historical documents, it is always referred to as Kingston upon Hull (various spellings). If we're proud of the place, and our heritage, should it matter that we have a colloquial name for our beautiful city? (Discuss).

 

I'm not sure comparing a North Sea( -ish) poer with the world's first industrial city is a good one in many ways.

Our traditions and situation are very different and much older than Manchester's.

We were in the Hanseatic League. This is our proud USP- not being a distant 6th behind Liverpool, Mcr, Leeds, Sheffield or wherever.

Some seafood restaurants, a less sombre and more modern whaling museum (celebrating bravery of intrepid crews), redig Queen's Docks, get rid of Princes Quay (and thereby fill lots of retail units in other parts of town) and ffs, learn from the European cities I previously mentioned.

 

Welcome wtw. 3 posts get ya finger out mate

 

I wasn't comparing the two, I was basically saying many areas of Manchester have been 'glossed over' via money. There's no reason the same couldn't happen in Hull. But Hull needs to attract that money first, then you see more visitors and more people dressed up, which in turn probably makes those that don't normally make an effort, make more of an effort.

 

We won't attract the money with the Brady Bunch in charge, with Terry Geriatric telling the Tour De France organising commitee 'This is a rugby town" and Stephen Bayes snogging his 17 year old male fiance'.

We had our chance when Labour were in No. 10, spending money like it was going out of fashion, Prescott as Deputy PM, Alan Johnson in the Cabinet- and we still didn't get owt.

We need a thousand smaller initiatives. I'll start:-

1) HCFC to advertise on P&O ferries, advertising fixtures, giving email address and offering package weekends in conjunction with superior local travel agent. Discounts for parties of 10 or 20. Adopt a proactive approach in the Low Countries. Note: we already have a lot of people coming over, having to find their own way.

 

I agree - a lot in the council are useless, there are a few gems in there that don't have a big enough voice sadly. But 90% of councillors are stuck in the past dinosaurs from the 'jobs for the boys' brigade. There are loads that are in a position to make a difference to this city but are comfortable just taking their wages and talking the talk when the media come asking.

Agree about the ferries too, not just city either, there's loads on board about what to do elsewhere in England, just the odd placard from Visit Hull and East Yorkshire and a small leaflet about Hull.

 

The likes of Brady actively encourage the embarrassing 'victimism' in which we are the poor Cinderella city cruelly mistreated by the Tory Ugly Sisters.

Pathetic that so many lazy feckless slobs buy into it and feed Brady's ego.

 

Out of interest does anyone have a list of the number of tourists who visit the top 20 cities, (We know that Liverpool will get a large number due to the Beatles, plus 2 PL clubs for example.) to see in terms of proportion are we doing better or worse than average.

Am not getting into political arguments about certain councillors/the council - which some people seem to be doing on here.

Also does Hull have a City Centre manager and if so what is his or her brief, and if there isn't one wouldn't say £30000 spent on one if that meant we got increase in tourism/improved certain aspects of the city centre which would benefit the city to a figure higher than that salary be money well spent.

 

Hull people themselves don't appreciate what there is on offer most of the time I'm afraid. When was the last time, if any time at all was given to visiting the museums? Not everyone's cup of tea I admit but all the same there seems to be something of interest for most people and quite a bit to do with Hull of a byegone era.

Egyptology? Now there's a topical subject at the moment, there are some first class replicas of many items on display, and even a mummy, on the top floor of the old Grammer School. Ferens sometimes has kids art school's, again the Grammer School has a set up of cllassroom from years ago complete with wooden benches and blackboards. Streetlife has many items of old Hull on display, all this and much more within the city centre.

 

This website is an interesting one on this particular section although it covers much more.
Skyscrapercity Hull and Humber, there is even a Tigers thread.

 

But Leeds are European champions don't youu know

 

No you couldn't OLM. Kingston in the South East of South Australia, Home to the Big Crayfish (Lobster) would hold that.

 

I don't think the name Wyke had anything to do with a bishop. What we were taught was that it was a Scandinavian word 'vic' (with the v pronounced like the modern w). The word meant 'creek', i.e., the River Hull. The religious connection was that the land was owned by the Abbey of Meaux, then purchased by the crown as they wanted a northern port, which is when it became 'King's town upon Hull'.

 

Nah, it'll never work...........................Kingston City AFC