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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Bucks Blue, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. VETCHETARIAN

    VETCHETARIAN Active Member

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    He's probably having a bad hair day,bonymaen.

    I understand that the women in Newcastle have hair on their chests. Can anyone confirm that?
     
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  2. Stumpy

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    PhilK, are you Aber/rubberball,

    "untold damage to your image". Did I miss something? Who got shot then?
    "That brat is now the image of your club" I think people with a footballing brain would probably think of either Michu, Chico, Du Guzman, Ki, Vorm, Rangel, Davies et all as the image of our club, or they may think of the Great Dane himself, that's Michael Laudrup by the way Philk, he's our manager don't you know.

    PhilK, If you are able to recall as far back to last night, if not then google it, then you will remember it was Hazard who initiated the whole incident by pushing the ball-boy to the ground where, admittedly, he made the most of it. Up to the point where Hazard stuck the boot in, kicking through the prone boy in an attempt to toe poke the ball. Any unbiased eye, I have doubts about yours PhilK, will see that Hazard kicking a ball-boy IS the incident and not the ball-boy.

    Hazard booted a ball-boy, there is nothing else to say, its simples PhilK <ok>. He knew what he was doing, no shame on us.

    May I respectfully suggest that you concentrate your attentions on your diminishing club while we concentrate ours on a trip to Wembley, hopefully Europe next year, moving our way up in the best league in the world and generally continuing our success story. Hope to see the Toon there next year, well, I couldn't care less really, I'm alright JACK. Thanks for your views anyway PhilK<ok>
     
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  3. Kifflom!

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    PhilK: 'Overreaction' doesn't do your post justice. I agree that the image of the Club has been tarnished slightly by this little git because our standards are so high and we've had plaudits from all and sundry. But in the scheme of things I wouldn't class it as "untold". Wind your neck in. The ballboy has apologised because he knew he was wasting time, and Hazard has too. Both clubs will put this behind them if they haven't done so already. So yes, it WILL blow over pretty quick, and it's only idiots like you that are getting hysterical over it.

    Support Bradford if you like but we're going to win. Get over it.
     
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  4. DerekTheMole

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    I'm sure that's what Wigan, Arsenal and Villa thought!
     
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  5. Kifflom!

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    OK...you know what I mean, DP. If we can't be confident about this game then we'll never be confident about any game. But it's footie so anything can happen.
     
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  6. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your contribution but nothing to see here although I must add bit like saying we're odds on for promotion.
     
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  7. Stid

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  8. Bucks Blue

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    OK... even if he was holding the correct side, I don't think he got kicked! There are many angles you can see the incident from. From some it looks as if Hazard has kicked the lad but from others the ball clearly is kicked by Hazard and then the lad starts rolling about.

    Fact is... the ball boy was a cheat but Hazard was also out of order.

    On t the abuse our fans were giving... Suarez is a cheat. Hey he admitted it. He gets hurled abuse at all the time. Us CFC fans were shouting '****er ****er' and the ball boy as he walked past us. He cheated. What are we meant to do clap him off the pitch?! We are frustrated because we're on the verge of going out and this was like the final kick in the teeth. As for the other ball boy. There were several incidents when he got the ball and deliberately was giving it back to Tremmel slowly. One time he rolled the ball so slowly it took about 10 seconds for the ball to go 6 yards! He then turned to our fans, smirked and gave us the thumbs up! Now if that isn't winding our fans up I don't know what is!? Add to this the tweet that this ball boy that got kicked said before the game and I think it is clear that they were told to do this.

    And then people are in complete outrage. We are getting punished for this when the ball boys cheated. Williams ran over and tried his best to get Hazard sent off. As did your fans. Williams says that kicking a little kid is out of order. Yes. It is out of order. But this isn't a 'little kid'. He is 17. There are pictures of him drinking etc. on twitter and he is the same age as Luke Shaw. If Luke Shaw was kicked during a football game it's similar.

    I'm just a bit annoyed because it seems the ball boys planned it all along and we are getting punished for this. The plan worked. But also it overshadows the fact that you have done an amazing job in getting to the final and I wish you the best against Bradford <ok>
     
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  9. Kifflom!

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    I've been the little git's biggest critic but "If Luke Shaw was kicked during a football game it's similar" is just wrong. Physical contact is expected on the pitch, not off it, and certainly not against a ball boy.

    You're not "being punished" either. Your team is out because of the result. Nothing to do with the incident. Hazard is being punished because he overreacted. Your fans were probably wound up by the ballboys' antics but the ref should add time on. Simple.

    However I'd be surprised if this incident doesn't lead to an internal inquiry at the club and result in the ballboys not doing this sort of thing again - certainly at our club and possibly others. For a club that's built up an image of doing things the right way this is the last thing we should be associated with.
     
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  10. beppeswan

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    "And then people are in complete outrage. We are getting punished for this when the ball boys cheated. Williams ran over and tried his best to get Hazard sent off. As did your fans. Williams says that kicking a little kid is out of order. Yes. It is out of order. But this isn't a 'little kid'. He is 17. There are pictures of him drinking etc. on twitter and he is the same age as Luke Shaw. If Luke Shaw was kicked during a football game it's similar."

    He was wrong with wasting time end of, there are ways of dealing with this.

    1. informing the referee = he kicked the ball but he also caught the ball boy end of you cannot say he didnt catch him.
    why are you getting punished your player was sent off for violent conduct as far as i am concerned the punishment fits the crime 3 game ban.
    The same as when jamie carragher had a coin thrown at him and when he proceeded to throw the coin back he was also sent off. 3 game ban.

    it was just silly by all involved and detracted from a great night. i thought that Super frank showed great quality in going over to the ball boy to make sure he was ok or did he stand on his fingers <whistle>
     
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    "And then people are in complete outrage. We are getting punished for this when the ball boys cheated. Williams ran over and tried his best to get Hazard sent off. As did your fans. Williams says that kicking a little kid is out of order. Yes. It is out of order. But this isn't a 'little kid'. He is 17. There are pictures of him drinking etc. on twitter and he is the same age as Luke Shaw. If Luke Shaw was kicked during a football game it's similar."

    He was wrong with wasting time end of, there are ways of dealing with this.

    1. informing the referee = he kicked the ball but he also caught the ball boy end of you cannot say he didnt catch him.
    why are you getting punished your player was sent off for violent conduct as far as i am concerned the punishment fits the crime 3 game ban.
    The same as when jamie carragher had a coin thrown at him and when he proceeded to throw the coin back he was also sent off. 3 game ban.

    it was just silly by all involved and detracted from a great night. i thought that Super frank showed great quality in going over to the ball boy to make sure he was ok or did he stand on his fingers <whistle>
     
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  12. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

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    And the end there are no winners from this ,I hope this side issue isn't remembered more than the game it self.
     
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  13. NorfolkSwan

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    Too late I'm afraid. Let's just go and win the cup. That will then be all anyone remembers ;)
     
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  14. trundles left foot

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    Why are you trying to justify hazards disgraceful behaviour. You should be ashamed of yourself. Yes the ballboy was wrong. But Hazard did kick him and that behaviour is unaccaptable and you should be condeming the coward not justifying it.

    As for the ball boy being a cheat. Yes he is. I dont see you condeming Ba for a blatant dive in the first half and the dive at your place. Is that not cheating or is it acceptable when someone from a rich big club does it.
     
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  15. Kifflom!

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    Good point. Ba blatantly dived and got off without a yellow. No foul, no pen so should have had a card.

    But I hate the idea of the Club which I'm very proud of being associated with cheating or even bending the rules. One Chelsea poster put it this way:

    "Whose decision was it to bring this 17 year old 'boy' out of 'retirement' to be a ballboy for the first time this season? He then tweets about his time wasting intentions on the morning of the game...oh and he happens to be the son of a director at Swansea. Doesn't leave a nice taste.."

    He as a point, unfortunately.
     
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  16. trundles left foot

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    KJ i am led to believe that some of the normal ball boys had called the club saying they could not get to the ground because of the snow. How true that is i dont know.
     
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  17. FosseFilberto

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    The ballboy incident was an unecessary distraction from a fabulous performance by the Swans over two legs ... any argument that Chelsea were more likely to score with 11 on in the last 10 minutes when they hadn't for the previous 170 takes the art of straw clutching to new heights - it made no difference to the outcome of the game - well done and congratulations...
     
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  18. DerekTheMole

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    No it's not a bit like that. It's like saying we WILL get promoted. We are odds on for promotion.

    Anyway my tongue was firmly in cheek and I do expect you to win comfortably, too.
     
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  19. Stid

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    That is spot on he posted this on his twitter account before the game.
     
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  20. trundles left foot

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    Quite right, but these big clubs have to try and deflect away from their piss poor performance. Just cant take defeat on the chin.

    It happens every time. When we drew with Man utd, Fergie states that ashley Williams nearly killed RVP. What did the press prin and the radios shows talk about the next day. Aw nearly committing murder. Not the fact that we matched Man U and they dropped points. The same is happening here. Deflecting away from a teams performance that was second best to a team that cost a 10th of theirs or their incompetent manager. Surprise surprise, on the radio today, everything about this and not the result. Just Typical.
     
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