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Suarez Leaving

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bumps, Jan 23, 2013.

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  1. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    If it happens that Suarez wants it then we should try get some talent in return. Muller and Robben would fit our style nicely.

    But I get the impression that Suarez is very happy here.
     
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  2. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    "That's £83m PLUS the funds promised by FSG due to the wage bill cuts"

    There's a big flaw in that argument. Includes the words 'promise' and 'FSG'.
     
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  3. Tobes

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    It was reported after he signed his new deal that a £40M buyout clause had been included in it.
     
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  4. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Suarez will have his price whether we like it or not.

    i guess if an offer did happen that was too good, we will see what the owners ambitions for us are, we wont replace Suarez when we don't have CL football to offer others, so he will be a big loss if he goes, just have to hope the owners are serious about making us top 4 again, because without Suarez i don't see it sadly.
     
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  5. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    I didn't miss your point at all <ok>

    Suarez has a 'market' value...whatever that is. I wouldn't want to sell for 50% above that (anymore would be unrealistic and simply wouldn't happen anyway in todays world). Why? Because Suarez to us is worth more than his market value. With him, we may be able to attract more talent, we may stand a chance of regaining a position in the top 4....or even eventually push for the title. We couldn't afford or attract another Suarez now, he is critical to LFC on so many levels....Even if he wanted to go, assuming he doesn't have a release clause, I wouldn't sell him until his contract had 2 years left to go. We need Suarez more than he needs us tbh, not a great position to be in but true.
     
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  6. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    edit,

    my first post appeared from somewhere lol
     
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  7. So basically, your stance is 'do not sell' which I think is fair enough. Unfortunately, it is not your (or my) decision and I suspect FSG will look at it differently <ok>

    As someone else said above, if the rumoured release clause in his contract is true then we may not have much choice <ok>
     
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  8. BringBackfootie

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    Fkucing sick of this cr@p. Suarez signed a new contract and he is going to Play half of it at least at Anfield.

    Otherwise FSG can change This is Anfield to youth Hostel.
     
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  9. Don't think many of us think he will be going anywhere TBH, its just the hot topic of the morning <laugh>
     
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  10. BringBackfootie

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    the cr@p wasn't referring to posters.. to players moving after signing long contracts. That cr@p<ok> After Torres going like h did. <doh>

    We're not a feeder club! even if the team is not doing brilliant atm
     
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  11. Fair enough but I'd rather it be that way than Arsenal's 'let contracts run down and try and get as much as we can before losing them for free' approach <ok>
     
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  12. luvgonzo

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    Strange thread this, I understand people wanting to speculate but I'd rather not as the thought of him moving scares me.

    At the end of the day it makes no sense to sell as no matter what we get for him we couldn't replace him unless Falcao or Messi decided they wanted to play for us, therefore Suarez is the kind of player that may mean that a top striker/player thinks of moving to Liverpool to play with Suarez.

    So as I said earlier it makes more sense to keep him and add quality around him we may then start getting into the CL again.

    If we don't show progress then I expect he will want to move on and who could blame him but that is not the case at the moment.
     
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    Jeez, I bet half the people on here believed it was going to be the end of the world last December as well.:)

    Suarez leaving is a possibility, but why talk ourselves into it?
    So far, all we've had is a few noises from Pep that he likes Suarez and the predictable response from the papers (they've been trying to get him out of English football for a while now anyway).
    Like most things, I'll believe it when I see it.

    FSG have said their aim is to get us back competing at the top- you don't get to the top by selling your best players.
     
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  14. Cantbearsedwithnot606now

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    I suppose the only real worry is that Suarez agent is Peps brother, so when he gets in at Bayern he will, indirectly, have Peps ear to a greater extent than many other managers.

    I cant see him going, but Gerrez is right - everyone has a price.
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    who cares?

    paper talk unitl the summer and frankly if we get 50+mil cos thats what it would need to be then we'd be idiots to turn it down. if we can invest it in proper players and not ****e bargain bucket/youth.

    for me if we look at our signins since comolli left the club do fall into two categories.... good but not world calss players at what i'd call decent money and punts.... sturrdige and allen were bought for decent money.. moeny a lot of clubs can pay (see sunderland paying 12mil for fletcher for example) yesil, sahin and assaidi were punts. little moeny and taking a risk either on youth or someone cheap working out.

    If we pay what is now midtable fees we will be mid table...

    Suarez was always worth 23mil... always... so if you apply the same logic to say erikksen or isco or back a few years mata, silva and others we can see that the club has too many times shied away from the obvious and ended up punting the same maoney on huge risks... carroll, downing, keane, aqauilani... thats 85mil punted on ****e.
     
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  16. Ze

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    If Suarez does leave, then I will be angry at Suarez and more angry at the Liverpool management. At Suarez for accepting offer away from a club that has done so much for him. Stuck up for him when he was being vilified, countless times as supporters we've put up with abuse about his behaviour and defended him to the last because he's our player. If he was to give that up then he'd be worse than Torres in my opinion.

    As for Liverpool's management, well... we see this all the time with Arsenal selling their top talent and they're not much better than we are. We're in this position because we sold our best players, how will selling our best players now help at all?
     
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  17. BringBackfootie

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    its a possibility as much as anything else that is not impossible.

    FSG if offered silly money, will take the offer and it will be up to Luis and his conscience can be clear if the club get a ridiculous offer and accept it.

    If we don't want to talk to anyone, I can't see him sticking in a transfer request so it's really down to what LFC do, Suarez is happy, accepting offers will fk that all up. Look what happened with Alonso, happy until talk of sale.

    FSG and Liverpool should have one line.

    Only player like him in the world atm, NOT FOR SALE.

    As much as he's brought unwanted attention to himself and Liverpool the marketing people will tell you all publicity is good publicity
     
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  18. Tobes

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    If he's got a buyout clause then all of that is moot, as it'd only ever be triggered by a club who already knew he'd come to them.

    Your last sentence is a total fallacy btw, just ask Gerald Ratner
     
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  19. Wasn't we saying similar about Torres before replacing him with a certain Mr Suarez...? <whistle>
     
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  20. Foredeckdave

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    If Suarez wants to go then he goes it's as simple as that. But if he does go then the minimum that he goes for is supposedly £40 million. Don't take that buyout figure as THE fee because there will also be lots of strings attached to it. So whilst it could be higher it is unlikely to be lower. Therefore the club can have some form of contingency plan.

    As others have pointed out Suarez's value depends upon where you are standing. In market terms he's worth what the market will offer - but only if LFC want to sell him. His value to LFC is a totally different matter and whilst that valuation is related to future aims for the club it is not totally fixed by that.

    It's really up to us to decide how we view any departure. WE could view him as another Torres or we can say "thanks a lot and good luck". That I suppose will depend upon how it is spun to us.

    BUT as luv said earlier - let's not talk ourselves into something here.
     
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