Shergar's Shoo in's 12th May

Ron.....Well from what I've read about Carlton House's pedigree, horses from Street Cry tend to be most effective over a mile, though he is out of a Mare of Bustino, and horses Bustino has sired are down as most effective over 11 furlongs, so like I say he probably will stay but the Street Cry influence is a slight concern, particularly as his odds are so short!

Horses such as Motivator and Authorised won the Dante in far more authorative fasion, yet they weren't getting quotes as short as 6/4 after the race, fair enough he may have been chased home by a good horse in Seville, but we don't know that for sure until they both run again

 

Wow what a few busy days, driving 5 hours for meetings in blackpool and then carlisle for work- Had a quick look at your tips today shergar just put the one bet on midday. So nice little winner, I was thinking about CH but the race looked to competitive and wasnt 100%. Looks like ive missed a busy time on here too. Will be back on tomorrow. Just watched todays racing that I had recorded, hopefully tomorrows will be just as good as the Dante; Looking forward to your shoo ins tomorrow;

 

Frankel won me a lot of money Shergar as it did for 4-5 other Pros I know who also bet thousands rather than pennies on races. Even at 1/2 Frankel was value though I had it at 5/4 4/5 and 1/2 as it was the most obvious winner for years so I cannot believe you were not on this one as a upposed "Pro".

As you say it is all about what is perceived as value and I would rather gamble £20k or £50k for a decent return on one horse I could not see getting beat than gamble £200 on a longshot, any pro does that.

I will let people on here know over the coming weeks on this forum of any planned bet so you can see for yourself as us Pros only bet a few times per year not per day. I will also look to get a couple of people who are Pros also making a living out of this game to see if they can give any advice to anyone looking for help on things as it would be great to have a forum where people can make money as well as have fun.

 

Sounds good to me PROGAMBLER

 

Thing is Shergar, I was put off Sea The Stars because he was sired by Cape Cross. It seems like the stamina comes from the dam side more often than not and the dam is sired by Bustino out of a Mill Reef mare, two cracking 12f horses and with the sire being the sire of Zenyatta that spells to me a 12f horse with a good turn of foot. I'm no expert on thoroughbred pedigrees (otherwise Jan Vermeer would have won the Arc) so I'm probably wrong again.

 

Shergar - He's getting quotes of 2/1; 6/4; 7/4 etc. because it being the Queen's horse the odd-day backers will probably want their £10s & £20s on it. Look a few years ago the money Barbers Shop attracted for the Gold Cup!

Ron - Carlton House could absolutely hose up - as they say he's been held up in his prep; got worked up at the start and still won. Just wonder if a change of tactics in the Derby; stronger pace and see if they can run the turn of foot out of him may cause him a problem?
Not long so we'll see!

ProG - Sounds good that does mate! (o:

 

FAO Progambler - I look forward to some insight from your good self over the coming weeks/months, however and I quote
"rather gamble £20k or £50k for a decent return" I maybe speaking out of turn but I don't think there will be many people on this forum betting that kind of money, not even the King bets to that sort of stake to the best of my knowledge.
I'll need to stick to betting my £20-£200 max on horses.
Also, as much as I love the sport and pitting my wits against those bookie chappies, if I had a spare £20k kicking around I don't think it would be risked on something where almost anything can happen.

 

I'd never have the b*****ks to be able to put £20k on a horse! I was nailbiting enough yesterday over Midday simply because she was in my Ten To Follow!
Be a good thing to look for though because that's how I'd assumed the pros did it - larger sums at fewer times!

 

That is exactly what I was planning to do when I retired. Put £10k into a betting bank and see if I could make some money with carefully selected, infrequent bets. I thought that, with patience, I might be able to get 30% winners. I had a trial run, without risking any real money, and discovered that it was quite easy to have more than 3 losers on the trot. Some were horses I would have put huge stakes on. So I gave up that idea and just enjoy everything to do with racing other than risking money. Needless to say the £10k disappeared somewhere.

 

PS. The other thing I thought of doing more recently was to just follow Timeform Jury as, although not been going very long, they consistently make an annual profit (as did the Timeform service before the Jury). But taking account of the cost of the service, I decided that was a waste of time also unless betting in really large stakes. Not for me. Like FB I don't have the necessaries for that either.

 

I was fortunate to make good money elsewhere before getting into racing. I began by being given tips by many people but found that you can get a lot of information but often it turns out to be better to trust your own instincts.

A losing run as Ron says is easy to start and keep going but I have over the past couple of years found that certain people do know more than others and can give a winner more often than not.

As with any gambling, Betting big is all about making sure you can afford to lose it as it does sometimes go wrong and enjoying the good days. I have had a couple of bets where you cannot believe the horse lost and on the flip side where the horse won so easily and still have the odd sleepless nigt before a big bet goes on and sweaty palms etc before and during a race.

Today is another no bet day for me but there should be some good races and good luck if you do have a bet.

 

Flying, I know what you mean dude. For the life of me I could not see Midday getting done yesterday but only had the courage to stick £50 on, suppose it is all relative and depends on what you can afford to lose.

I'm trying to restrict myself to betting on Group races with the odd listed one thrown in if I fancy anything and so far it is proving profitable, where the bookies get you is betting on races that we no nothing about, that is another thing that distinguishes the pros from us lesser mortals.......they have the key ingredient, DISCIPLINE!!!

 

You claim to be a pro, yet you get nervous before a big bet hahahaha! Brilliant! No pro gets nervous, the key to being a pro, is being disciplined as Jumpers says, so how on earth can you be disciplined if your nervous?

You need to be making decisions on a clear head, not getting nervous, it's about controlling your emotions!

Anyways guys i'm off on my holidays tommorow but Lump on the Turpinator Dick Turpin who is going to piss all over CC in tommorows Lockinge!!!!

 

Have a good holiday Shergar. "See" you when you get back.

 

Of course you get nervous, it's all part of the excitement and build up and the thrill. Have you ever bet £50k and known how much it could make you? Any pro gets nervous be it on gambling or before a football match or a big event, it is human nature but as you are not a pro you would not know.

You claim to be a Pro but you are never a pro as no pro backs 6 horses in a day and when 5 lose then claims the last one won them lots more than what they had on the 5 losers.

In the coming weeks I shall prove I am a Pro with tips and bets of thousands that have been proven to be placed, but I bet you cannot do the same.

Now how did your bets on Dick Turpin go for you or did you find another 9-1 shout that you failed to mention that won you tens of thousands as you seem to tip more losers than winners on here.

As this forum is supposed to be friendly I have no intention of rowing with one poster who claims to be a pro whilst still living at home with his parents and will keep everyone up to date as I receive more information and hope you enjoy your week in Weymouth with mum and dad in the caravan!

 

PG.....Nope I don't get nervous, i'm a confident gambler, and when I lose I take it on the chin, as I know that over a period of time I will show a profit, hence my Shoo in's on 606, which was proven over a yearly period that I showed a nice profit!

Claim all you like that your a pro who has 50k bets, but we all know you don't, the biggest bet I've ever had was 30k, and I've had that bet on 3 occasions, and everytime I've been succesful, including this season, on Dick Turpin In his victory at Sandown at 8/11, which I advised as the best bet of the flat season so far!

I rarely have bets of that amount my normal bet is just a grand or 2 but when the time is right, I'm not afraid to steam into a horse, and il inform this board, as I did on 606!

You are very hipocritical, in one sentence you claim this board Is a "friendly" board, and in the same sentence suggest I'm off to Weymouth with Mum and Dad in a caravan, mainly because that would be a cheap holiday, I assume! I'm in my 40s and my Dad died 5 years ago, so not realy possible, if you must know I took my boy, who Im rarely allowed to see to Barcelona for the football, along way from Weymouth!

As for Dick Turpin in the Lockinge, i didn't even back him as my flight was at 11am, and there was no way I could watch the race in a foriegn country, though I've watched tge race since returning, and it does apear he had no luck in running, and was knocked about which did effect his challenge, whilst Canford Cliffs got the run of the race

 

Shergar I know several pros and have been around for a while now. If you wish to claim you are a pro then so be it and I will indulge you in your fantasy but pros never bet 6 times in one day, simple fact, ask any of us pros, we will tell you!

Perhaps you can explain why you always drop out of challenges on 606 if you are so successful as you claim? As for Dick Turpin, why would you need to watch the race live? Any pro if so certain puts the money down and then gets the result sent them and can watch the race or looks it up and can then watch later via the internet, why do you need to watch it live if it wins?

You say you take losing on the chin, really? Amazing how you did not bet on the race when it got beat but you say lump on it but then apparently don't bet and when 5 of your 6 tips lose you say the 6th won you more than you lost but do not say what you bet. How about on 606 - anymore 9-1 shots you did not mention that have come in lately when your tips lose? Sorry but no pro does that, only a small time gambler chasing losses and trying to save face.

I am friendly to anyone until they decide to be aggressive to me and I believe the comment probably hit a nerve with you.

Now I wish you all the best with your future bets and if claiming to be a pro gets you through the day then good luck to you and I look forward to much more mirth soon.

 

PG People have different ways of betting. No pro bets the same as the next. Just because he bets on more horses than usual doesnt mean hes not a pro. As he says on the 606 board he made me and Im sure others plenty of money. (e.g tipping Oscar Whisky at the aintree hurdle @ 7/1) Shergar just likes to share his knowledge with everyone. And even if the days racing is not great he still has the balls to have a go. I am not a pro, but would like to think I have a fair amount of knowledege. But any help is greatly received. But anyway what is your deal with him. Have you actually put any tips up yourself, and im not talking about odds on favs. I might be wrong but you just come on here dissing people and not actually putting your tips on!

 

Woolcombe, not sure what your problem is with me clearly you do not understand pro gambling or being pro in any sport. No pro does or would bet everyday, you end up in the gutter, go down a bookies and see how many people do it and end up poor. A pro is disciplined and only bets when certain of making money.

Yes Shergar picked a couple of winners and fair play but what about those losers he has that he then claims to have covered by a 9-1 shot he never mentioned, that is called being a poor loser and worse gambler?

I have not yet listed tips as I only bet when I get solid information, which may be twice a month or not for several months and as stated will then happily share this information so you can see for yourself and others on here.

Now I hope that helps you and good look with your bets and go with your own instincts, don't rely on others.

 

Shegar gives his fair share of winners and I find his information invaluable. Regardless if he is a pro or not doesn't really make much of a differece. On BBC 606 he has proved over a long period a profit and that is what really matters to all of us. No one wants to lose money to the bookies unless you work for them so please stop digging into Shergar and let him do what he does.

He has the balls to post his selections win or lose. We can judge for ourselves whether we wish to back his selections or not. Thank you