Right, people have had their say on it, now its my turn, to me, its a sending off, it doesn't matter if he goes in 2 footed and gets the ball, he risked injuring Wilshere yesterday, he did a tackle like that against us last year in the fa cup 3rd round, when he went in on Nani, he hasn't learnt his lesson it seems.
please log in to view this image From this angle it doesn't look clever. But look at his feet, they're going for the ball. Also when you watch the tackle, Kompany had his eyes on the ball and not on the player. So how is it worse than the one below? please log in to view this image
The actual challenge I don't think was worthy of a red, but the way he initially dives in to the challenge completely off the floor with both feet forward makes it easier for the ref to give that kind of decision, I also don't think the appeal will be successful because the ref has a case to say it still looks reckless with him being off the floor.
Haven't seen the full replay, but from the image it looks like Kompany is lunging towards Wilshere with his studs showing, which is a red card offence regardless of where the ball is, or whether one or two feet are showing. Ultimately, it depends on your view around tackling. I don't want tackling to be outlawed, but then there's little difference between the tackles Constcrepe has posted and this one by Evans that put Holden out for a couple of years: please log in to view this image You could argue it's only good fortune that prevented the same thing happening to Wilshere - if he'd had his leg tucked under him like Holden did then he could have suffered a nasty knee injury. So personally I think any lunge off the ground towards the player with the studs showing has to be a red - it's just not worth the risk of another Holden, Eduardo, Ramsey etc etc.
I see two feet off the ground and going in studs first. Saying he got the ball, good tackle etc doesn't change the fact its a nailed on red card and dangerous. If he'd been a bit slower or Wilshere a bit, faster that was an leg breaker. Koscielny's red card was hilarious though. How brain dead does a defender have to be to do that right in front of a ref. Good to see them cracking down on defenders pulling that crap all the time.
To be fair Constcrepte, the second one is a potential leg breaker, from that photo, it does look like a sending off but i'm still convinced its a sending off.
I think Kompany is somewhat the victim of law and precident. By the law Kompany should have been sent off, and its right that the law says that, because tackles of that sort can and do break legs. Hansen said Kompany timed his tackle to perfection - this is true. However had he not timed it to perfection it could have been a legbreaker and that is precisely the point. Players know they cant leave the floor with both feet, they know they cant follow through in a manner that looks lacking in control and they know they cant go over the ball. In a way it is a shame that good, strong fair tackles are victimised by the law as it stands. In a bigger way I would rather an overprotective law which victimises otherwise strong and fair tackles than an underprotective law where the victim gets a season out rather than 3 games. It should stand. In days gone by it was an excellent tackle. But in days gone by leg breakers were common place. Its a shame for a player who I admire greatly - he is the model professional. but like I said, victim of precident and rightly so.
Actually... Have just seen it again on the MOTD 2 repeat... Think I might be with Hansen on this one. From behind it looks bad, but the side on view makes it look VERY different - back foot tucked behind front, front foot planted on the floor and he basically slipped... I stand by my original point about excessive force tackles, even ones which look like 'strong, fair' tackles - but Kompany appears to be very unlucky.
It's the momentum that makes it a dangerous lunge, in that case I can't see the problem with it, Kompany didn't go charging in. Considering Huddlestone's against Norwich got rescinded when he had both feet off the ground I think Kompany's should have been too, they both took the ball cleanly with minimal contact on the player. Then again I don't think Koscielny should have been sent off either and no one seems to be disagreeing with that decision.
Yeah i thought the Koscielny one was harsh - It happened in a split second but for me considering the bounce of the ball and fact that Tevez was first to the ball anyway Im not sure how much of a'clear goalscoring opportunity' was denied. Im going off on a tangent here, but I have always thought sending somebody off AND giving a penalty can be excessive. Even if it was a clear goalscoring opp for Dzeko I think giving a penalty should be punishment enough. i always thought the point of sending off for denying a goalscoring opportunity was more appropriate outside the area where defenders would be more likely to deliberately foul. Im aware this isnt what the rules say but maybe they should be changed - a penalty is by anybody's definition a clear goalscoring opportunity...
Harsh my arse! If he wasn't being held Dzeko was getting to that ball first. Putting his arms round him and holding him back was a blatant enough red but dragging him to the floor was beyond stupid. I thought the rules were being looked at so things like that would be a yellow + pen whereas a defender dragging down a player as the last man, but outside the box, would be a red. It's either being looked at, or I dreamt it was, in which case the FA needs to hire me.
It was a great tackle but in this day and age with the new stupid rules and having to act like girls on the football pitch it had to be a red
I knew that he was going to give a red. The crowd was baying. And arsenal was down to 10 men. Subconsciously he was bound to want to equalise things. Dean is one of those who ref according to the letter of the law. I thought the red for the koschelny was harsh. A yellow and pen would have been sufficient.
