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Mangane leaves Al Hilal

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by poolie_mackem, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. poolie_mackem

    poolie_mackem Well-Known Member

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    Been confirmed by the club

    sounds like he is coming to us on loan with the view to a permanent deal in the summer, rekon we will here something from SAFC in the next 24-48hours


    canny loan signing IMO
     
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  2. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    This is great news
     
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  3. poolie_mackem

    poolie_mackem Well-Known Member

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    from @KHeneage Kristan Heneage twitter
    Mangan deal gaining pace. Al-Hilal officials confirm he has left the club. I'd expect to hear something from #SAFC soon enough

    being reported in France that El Hadji Ba has flown to England for a medical

    sounds like he could be coming this way as well as we have been strongly linked over last week
     
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  4. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Very exciting indeed, 2 quality players as is n'daiye, good work by mon and the scouts this mind
     
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  5. Redandwhiteoxford

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    Graham Carr puffff didnt see these ones did you lolzzzzzz
     
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  6. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Lets hope its good work by the scouts. N'diaye & Mangane aeem to be very good acquisitions, dont know too much about the other guy.
    Still, as you say, exciting times. Hopefully might put a few thousand on the gate
     
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  7. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Seems a little inexperienced but if dortmund have shown interest aswel and marty wants him, fair play

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/el-hadji-ba/profil/spieler_169090.html
     
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  8. Apone

    Apone Active Member

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    Could this mangane be the new samba?

    Physically he certainly seems to be a good match, here's hoping he's as good a player.

    I know lots of us on this forum have called for us to sign samba for the last couple of transfer windows so let's hope he's as good!
     
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  9. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    From what i can gather mate he's like samba on roids
     
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  10. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    would that be hemaroids.
     
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  11. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Absolutely massive
     
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  12. Stu_SAFC

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    To be honest lads, in the same way that I don't think we should knock people before they've played for the club, I also don't think we should be bigging them up. I feel like it sets them up for a fall when our expectations aren't met.

    Both players linked on this thread are players that I have never seen play, so can't offer comment on.

    I wouldn't think we could start banding around '2 quality players' just yet though - Mangane has been playing in Saudi Arabia. Why did he move from the French to Saudi league at 29? And now he wants out of there after only 6 months?

    As for the new Samba - he's older than Samba, I'd be more excited about getting the original!

    I will be delighted if Mangane and Ba turn out to be quality players, especially given the fees mentioned won't be huge - but I'm not sure we can expect that immediately.

    (dons tin hat and runs for cover)
     
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  13. shiney-mackem

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    Stu , why does any international player in their 20's move to obscure leagues, all about the mighty dollar mate. I think it has a lot to do with his better half, not much freedom for women out there not even for WAG,s.
     
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  14. Stu_SAFC

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    Yeah there is that shiney... but didn't we all tear it out of Gyan when he did that?

    Anyway, his better half getting a raw deal out there sounds about right and if that's why he's after coming back to Europe, then let's hope we benefit from it. I am more excited about N'Diaye and Ba as they are young and seem to be on the up - I don't get the same feeling with Mangane just yet, but let's hope I'm wrong on that one :)
     
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  15. Moorsleymountainman

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    Spot on Stu. Never even heard of these players. The fact that they are cheap/being allowed to leave their clubs worries me a little. The fact that they are French and not linked to Arsena and the Mags (who are trying to do the same)who seem to watch everything French player alive worries me a little also. Lets hope they are at worst, decent players and better than we have.
     
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  16. dansafcman

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    At 6ft5 he is a big lad
    he got a bad rep in france, maybe injustly, after breaking a players leg in an "enthousistic" tackle....
     
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  17. Big Bad Wesley Brown

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    I'm confused as to why some fans are unhappy with signing unproven foreign players, when many people (not singling out anyone in this thread, just a general observation) have previously criticised MON for only buying British-based players. We need a healthy mixture of solid, proven experienced players and promising players from abroad who won't cost the Earth, and these new lads fit the bill for the latter IMO.
     
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  18. Cest Advocaat

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    Well said lad although I would love to see James Milner chucked in there for good measure.
     
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  19. Stu_SAFC

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    I know what you mean - I think these things tend to be cyclical. After Keane, a lot of our fans wanted us to look abroad, and were very excited about the Ghanaian and Paraguayan/South American connections. Then after Riveros, Angeleri, Da Silva etc didn't work out as we would have liked, people called for solid and proven British-based players. After a few transfer windows under O'Neill (and possibly paying over the odds for Brits previously) the foreign-based players are back in fashion.

    I completely agree with you in that a healthy mix of the two is what we need. I am excited about the N'Diaye signing, and similarly (but to a lesser extent, given that he hasn't played at the same level as Alfie) with Ba, and agree that they'd fit the bill for the second. I don't feel the same about Mangane because I don't feel like anybody is 'promising' at 29, but happy to be proved wrong of course.

    All I was saying above is that I don't feel we can refer to Mangane and Ba as quality players yet. I'm reserving judgement - either way - until we see them play a few PL games. For every Gyan (quality player) there could be an Angeleri (not so much).
     
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  20. Big Bad Wesley Brown

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    Me too mate, he was right at the heart of City's best spell towards the start of last season when they were smashing everyone, and I think MON would get the best out of him.

    That is a good point Stu, the foreign market is obviously a risky business, but you can get some real gems on the cheap, and hopefully N'Diaye, Ba and Mangane will adapt well and give us plenty to shout about.
     
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