New it was a big mistake to get rid of his talent, and if you have any doubt check out his goal against Newcastle in the FA Cup, he's technically far better than Ki, and can keep the ball far better too, even though there were a few Jacks complaining he was light in the tackle, well if he was light in the tackle, then Ki is none existent! Should never have let this lad go, some times Clubs & managers get it badly wrong, come on lets be having you Orlandi doubters...........
I liked Orlandi he was a good player for us in the past, but I don't think he would fit into the team now. Just because he scored a goal today it doesn't mean we've made a mistake. He was injured a lot for us and think a move was a good idea, which he agreed with otherwise he would be here still on the sidelines.
Don't agree, he simply needed a run of games to get some serious form, which he never got under Rodgers, and I think Laudrup didn't take a serious look at him, and now he's proving the doubters wrong. If Ki in limp home mode can fit into our team, then it would be a breeze for Orlandi! To say that Orlandi couldn't fit into our team, beggars belief! Orlandi has more technical ability than De Guzman and Ki put together, trouble is that managers don't always look seriously at the fringe players, just look at Emnes, we could have had him, under one manager, but it changed overnight, when a new manager came in, and we couldn't get him then for love of money!!.................
Orlandi had quality written all over him. Dragon he did need a run, but the guy was so fragile he was always getting injured. Definately premier quality. Away at Villa lst season he run the first half, but yet again went off injured. Shame really as i think he is good enough for the PL.
As I remember it,Middlesborough wanted £5,000,000.00 for Emnes,and no Swansea manager was going to pay that.
I disagree Phil, the guy was always injured for god's sake, I liked him as I said but we've got to have players who are on the pitch more than out injured. You are glossing over the fact that he's an injury prone player Seagulls hit with Orlandi injury blow http://www.nononsensefootball.com/seagulls-hit-with-orlandi-injury-blow/ Orlandi Injured For Up To 6 Weeks http://www.swansea.vitalfootball.co.uk/sitepage.asp?a=230293 It ain’t fine and dandy for Orlandi http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4105555/Andrea-Orlandi-injury-blow.html Orlandi: Time to end my Swansea injury curse http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footba...o-end-my-swansea-injury-curse-91466-22712740/ Injury Boost For Orlandi http://www.swansea.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=99660 And so on
Orlandi is a bit of an enigma, on his day he can look awesome (as he did today) but can be poor on times and generally for us he just couldn't cope with the physicality of playing at the highest level seeing as he was mostly bullied out of games and ML must have seen this. His injury record is very poor, for us he would regularly be out for months at a time and seems he still gets injured at Brighton but is back much quicker, perhaps that's because the Albion have a better medical team or maybe he only gets paid when he plays...
Oh, how the memory fades. I like Orlandi but he always flattered to deceive and was never a consistent player for us - even in the Championship. Apart from a stellar performance away at Villa last season he didn't show me anything that tells me he was Prem quality. The fact he scored a cracker today is neither here nor there. Injuries....well it's all been said. Saying the Club/ Manager made a mistake in selling him based on one goal is daft. Ki will come good. I agree he's frustratingly lightweight in the tackle for a big guy but that can be sorted. Ki is a classy player with an eye for a pass who can score goals - and he will in time. You do realise he set up the equaliser last week? This reminds me of one poster who said Hernandez was a "turkey" after a few games. Yes, DPJ I know it wasn't you. Maybe we should get behind our current players instead of looking at those from the past .
He was injury prone but that broken rib thing was a freak accident. I have always rated Orlandi and was sorry when he left. Unfortunately, he never had a run of games where he could find his best form. We were shown tantalising glimpses of his ability, particularly against Villa where he had a stormer and I believe the Wolves game at home. Not able to travel, I always listened to the commentaries at away games and the remark that he was far and away the best passer on the pitch, was one often heard. The problem is that Orlandi was a low profile player and a lot of his good work went unnoticed but he gave us continuity in much the same way as Joe Allen did. I certainly believe that he could have fitted well into our present squad and, being left footed, would have given us balance. As for his tackling ability, it has long been a grouse of mine that, outside of our defence (and Leon), nobody wins tackles for us on a consistent basis, so he is not the only culprit. Personally, on Ki's performances to date, I would sooner have kept Orlandi and saved a wad of cash to strengthen in other areas. This is not to say that Ki won't come good. He too has shown glimpses of class but he needs to up his game in a number of areas: and, given the size of his transfer fee, this should be sooner rather than later.
Orlandi had his time with us and it didnt work, as KJ said he did welll in his showings for us against Villa and Sunderland and has got plenty of skill but he just wasnt ever going to get motoring because of his knocks. Maybe its a case of him now playing with these knocks at Brighton as he knows how close he was to not getting a club ? Some footballers become a little bit too cautious with their bodies and never fully get match fit as a result. Truth is most people playing sport at the highest level are always carrying knocks or minor injuries,maybe the penny dropped that he had to start doing the same? maybe he is over his problems altogether i dont know. I wish him all the best and am happy for him, i dont think he would be offering too much here and i think Ki will eventually improve .
Liked Orlandi but he was too injury prone to force his way in. If he was on cheap wages I would have kept him as a squad player but I trust Laudrup to allocate his budget and he decided Orlandi wasn't worth keeping on. It is amusing that people were on De Guzman's, Pablo's, Ben Davies' and now Ki's back....and yet some people long for the return of the likes of Orlandi and Emnes. Both good players, every player involved with us for the past 8 years can pat themselves on the back for being part of something truly special....but we have the most quality in our squad now than we have ever had.
agree terrorwit, our squad now is very good and the likes of orlandi and emnes would struggle to get games IMO .
Great goal though. Shame it did not work out for him, but having potential is not enough he had to deliver regularly which sadly he could not do - simples!
Would like to say that the responses to this thread have been great, and the points of view made spot on, Ivor we seem to agree on Orlandi, maybe his time with us, will benefit Brighton, but I said at the time he was a player I wanted to keep, hell I rate him over Gower, Lita, and Moore, and although he is indeed injury prone, so too is Agustien, and De Guzman, and it seems likely Ki will be too, so no mileage in that Jager! Anyway what's done is done, but I've been following Brighton closely since Dobbie and Orlandi went there, so look out for more on this from me, hope Brighton come up, as I would love to see these two Jacks do well in the Premiership! Knackered Happy new year mate.....................
No mileage phil ? Of course there is Orlandi was out for large portions of his time with us he played 74 times for us that includes sub appearances. So average about 15 games a season. This season Ki - 17 games De Guzman - 20 games Augustine - 11 games So we have almost half the season to go and your premise is in tatters
Look Jager if your going to throw stats around (Which never give the complete picture) then lets get Orlandi's in, and we'll see that Orlandi was never the injured issue your trying to make out, he has had no more injuries than your average player, Orlandi's problem was the only manager that really rated him well was Martinez, who brought him here, Sousa played him well too, and Rodgers side lined him for his second season. His stats are good under Martinez and Sousa who both used him as we all know very well. He was a regular under Sousa, featuring 31 times as Swansea narrowly missed out on the Championship play-offs. Orlandi also made 24 appearances in the previous year's promotion-winning campaign. 2008/09 Championship Season 15 Games 2009/10 ------------"----------- 31 Games 2010/11 ------------"----------- 24 Games 2011/12 ------------"----------- 05 Games (Binned under Rodgers) 2012/13 ------------"------------ 17 Games (Found a Good Manager) Brighton & Hove Albion My premise is no way in tatters, you just can't read the stats correctly, judging by what you are arguing, then we should get rid of Agustien, as he's far more injury prone that Orlandi ever was!......................
Jager, you can't use half a season to justify your argument. You would have to compare a like number of seasons because the more the others played, the more likely it would be that they would pick up injuries.
