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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by suttontiger, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. Stuart Blampey

    Stuart Blampey Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps a name change to Pavlov's Dog may suit you?
     
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  2. DMD

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    Lamby, when it was brought in, it was quite clearly stated that it wasn't a County nor a postal address region, it was simply an administrative area that covered East Yorkshire and parts of Lincolnshire. The claim to be Englands newest County was made by the arrogant and ignorant woman running the money pit from Beverley.
     
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  3. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Why? Because I can sit by and effortlessly pop your feeble attempts at wind ups? :laugh:

    You're as clueless as that TWS fool. :laugh:
     
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  4. Stuart Blampey

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    Yes, yes, everyone knows all that, ffs.

    It's been abolished as a 'county' etc but it will continue to be used, as it has been for decades to describe a specific geographic region (= around the Humber estuary). Similarly, other rivers and estuaries in Britain are described in the same way.

    There's no shame or diabolic plot -just established common usage going back decades.
     
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    A claim you've made several times, but have been repeatedly unable to prove.

    All it does is make you look as stupid as calling us French or Taffy, but you know that, you just want to be offensive and outrageous no matter how daft you look in the process. :laugh:
     
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  6. Exodus Geohaghon

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    OLM and DMD, that's like saying that referring to Dresden as being in East Germany is some sort of communist-era throwback. It isn't, it's just geographical fact. Hull is on Humberside, by the side of the Humber, and in East Yorkshire. If the article said 'the county of Humberside', it would be another matter. But it didn't.

    Google 'polysemic'.
     
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  7. DMD

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    Send us a picture of the sign to this area you talk of. You'll actually find one for the land of nod first. Imaginary places cannot be geographic facts, even in the la la land you seem to inhabit. :laugh:
     
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  8. Stuart Blampey

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    13520.jpg

    Spooky.

    It looks almost real.
     
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  9. Exodus Geohaghon

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    There won't be signs to most places which are a river's name with -side on the end, because they're not specific enough. You'd get signs for Middlesbrough or Redcar rather than Teesside, and London or Essex rather than Thameside, and Hull or Grimsby rather than Humberside. That doesn't mean they aren't widely-accepted lines on a map, denoting the area surrounding a river's banks, and doesn't mean they are taboo language just because the government doesn't print them on a bit of metal next to a motorway.

    You don't have to imgagine the sides of the Humber, they are there, so I have no idea what makes you think it's imaginary. That's Humberside.
     
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  10. Stuart Blampey

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    Yeah, I'd often wondered why there was no 'football hotbed' sign on the motorway near Newcastle.
     
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  11. DMD

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    Another own goal, given they were looking to call it Hull airport. Do you think Robin Hood really lives at the other one? You really are ****e at this. :laugh:

    Look, language is about communication. If someone agreed to meet you at Humberside, you reckon you'd go to the policeman or radio presenter. You could be slightly less foolish and go to Hollywood for the North Sea seal sanctuary, but you could save yourself looking stupid and ignorant and just describe the location using points of reference that actually exist.

    Why try to invent a word, when better ones already exist? The reporter used it because he saw it as a slur and couldn't find any other excuse because we were just so superior in every department. By your version, the fact that terms once used are valid, he could have described the difference in style between the English players and the darkies and looked equally as ignorant and out of touch.
     
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  12. DMD

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    Actually there ARE signs for areas that exist. They're useful as they are specific. As these specific points exist, why look like a ****** and use something that doesn't? Just to add to your education, the Humber isn't a River, it's an Estuary.

    You really don't get much right do you coco. <ok>
     
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  13. DMD

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    Reading your posts, I reckon you have as well. :laugh:
     
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  14. Stuart Blampey

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    I sense you're grasping at straws.

    You keep ignoring the evidence presented because you don't like it and it would mean you would have to admit you're wrong........


    Humberside Airport- serving the Humberside region, not the defunct Humberside county.

    There, happy now?
     
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  15. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    There's a place called California near here. Try looking for S.F. or L.A......(don't worry - the locals have seen it all before).
     
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  16. Exodus Geohaghon

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    The reporter used it for the reason I stated, to mix it up a bit. It's standard journalistic practice - you don't say 'it was a cold Hull night' or a 'cold Leeds night', you say it was a 'cold Yorkshire night'. Or a 'trip to Devon' for Plymouth or Torquay, or to 'LS11' for Leeds or to 'Humberside' for Hull or Grimsby. Yes, language is about communication, but sometimes artistic license overrides precision when there is shared/assumed cultural knowledge, such as the fact that Leeds played away at Hull which is blatantly obvious from the outset of the piece. No-one thinks Leeds played a friendly against Hull Old Bill, you cerebrally nonexistent alpaca.

    OK then, Teesside doesn't exist. We should never name the area around the banks of a river. We should always just mention the names of cities, and never of surrounding counties and geographical features, because boring specificity is the single virtue of language, even in journalistic reports which are trying desperately to keep their audience's attention by being varied in their lexical choices.

    The river/estuary point is noted, my mistake.
     
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  17. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Ambleside...Great Whernside....Morningside....and on and on and on zzzzzzzzz
     
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  18. DMD

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    Actually it serves who ever wants to use it. it's nearer to Lincolnshire and probably Nottinghamshire than bits of your imaginary region. :laugh:
     
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  19. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Five-a-side...Seven-a-side...
     
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    If it makes you happy to believe that, you feel free. You know as well as I do it's bollocks as an educated person wouldn't use an offensive term, but you seem to be at home getting **** all right. :laugh:
     
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