Our shirt sponsor deal was done long time ago, which is why we just made a new one giving us 30 million a season. We too are also negotiation at the moment for a new manufacturing deal, whether it be from Nike or Adidas. All of this together is going to substantially raise our revenues and increase the money coming into our club. And I honestly don't know what sh!t your talking about? I'm not happy with how our standards have fallen, but to claim that we've somehow dropped out of the game is a load of horse ****, we're still one of the top 4 teams in England, and have on occasions, come very close to winning trophies. Now with our increased revenues and the financial constraints being lifted off, this will allow us to spend that extra $$$ that we've always asked for, that will give us that extra 1-2 steps we've always need to be able to challenge and win things. And correction, nobody should be spending ANY more money than they make, that's business 101 so I don't know what the **** you're talking about. I find it amusing you make your own caveat though and say nobody should overspend LIKE LEEDS, since you know your own team spend much more than they generate. It would be very very easy for Arsenal to spend more than they make, but not on the level of Leeds, which most likely would result in us achieving titles and success.
You are talking so much ****ing ****, seriously, you're pissing me off now. Arsenal as a business model IS ONE OF THE BEST BUSINESS MODELS in the world, so quit talking a whole load of **** please. This is a club that built a whole new stadium from the ground up with costs going over 350 million ****ing pounds. And in less than 10 years since the stadiums been built, the club is already receiving major profits, HISTORY MAKING REVENUE AND PROFITS in the clubs entire history, and the revenue and profits are also about to go up. ON ANY LEVEL, that is a ****ing momentous business achievement, so when you're here saying Arsenal are playing safe and trying to knock their business model, truly shows you're a ****ing ****** who knows **** all about businesses. Arsenal's entire business plan centred on the Emirates WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST RISKS TO HAVE TAKEN, there was never a guarantee of it paying off, it was a very very bold and risky move. Now don't come tell me United make more money, because you further show your ******ation by trying to make comparisons between United's finances and Arsenals, as both clubs have started FROM DIFFERENT FOOTHOLDS, ****ing hell. As I said, Arsenal's recent business model started from the ground up with the whole Emirates project, so obviously we don't expect them to be generating more cash than United who weren't going through that phase.
Great insight, it's good to have the finances actually broken down so that we can now see how much we actually have/will have. And yes the future does look bright. At least we can now see that we have actually been skint rather than wenger being made out as someone who refuses to spend when he has money available. Also on the topic of deadwood players, i'd assume a large amount of them will be sold this summer and i'd imagine we will either bring in replacements or promote some of the youth players or bring back players that have been on loan. I'd much rather aneke and afobe sitting on the bench than chamakh and squillaci.
playing safe is not a business model .. not if you want a brand .. i hate Glazers they took £600m so far out of UTD revenues, but they run the club as a proper business, exploring every possibilities to increase revenues this is why we end up with a kit deal from Nike of £77m a year compared to your new one from Addidas for £25m a year .. and £30m a year with Emirates (which include renaming your stadium) while UTD get £51m from GM (without changing our stadium name) .. at the end of the day we both balance our books.. but our fans clearly are happier and our fans base and UTD as a brand keep growing and that is how you do business
Arsenal posted something like a 30 million profit for this year iirc. That included 60+ million "profit" from player sales. They only made about 20 million profit from player sales but by fudging the numbers it makes them look like they are profitable when really Arsenal had less money coming in than going out, i.e a loss. Yet wages lept up 15% again. Arsenal87 is talking out of his ass when he says Arsenal are one of the best business models. Arsenal are just keeping their heads above water by selling off their best players each year. Hardly something to be proud of.
No other group of fans would be having this conversation. It's because we are being screwed - plain and simple. High ticket prices, Constant selling of our best players and then the club have the cheek to constantly boost about our financial results. Gotta love Arsenal fans though - most of us still put a positive spin on it.
there was a table of how much each clubs spend in average in past 7 years, and I think Arsenal made about 8m profit in average every season by selling players compared to buying new ones.. that is even worst than any skinned small clubs who majority do spend.. something is wrong if people think that is the model on how to run a business when smaller clubs spend more and break even while Arsenal end up losing their best players thus getting less money in return compared to other clubs who get more money and still break even like UTD or Bayern...Arsenal approach lack creativity and ambitions tbh .. may be they are run well as a football club financially to keep them out of red and safe but sure not as a creative business with ambitions to be no.1 is just like the argument, should i advertise heavily and go up a level and generate more money? or should i just sit and do no risk and stay small .. sometimes advertising can generate 2-10 times of what you spend, that is how best businesses are run.. and in football you do that by keeping best players, attracting new one, do good results
Did Arsenal make £60million of profit on player sales last year? I thought they spend £60million on many players near the deadline?
Thank you - that is a good source. From that it looks like Arsenal make profit if you exclude player trading.
Arsenal were doing that, they won't anymore. That's the point I made at the start of the thread if you bothered to read it.... Did you read the first post in this thread? I really wonder if you've understood anything people have said in this thread.....
Yes , I dont believe this information is 100% accurate in fact in contradicts alot of what I have read previously. Discussing finances on a football forum..really?!
Any specific fact or number you disagree with? It seemed fairly general, and I couldn't see anything that could really be disputed. I thought the OP did quite well to stay away from conjecture.
I would question what you have been reading then considering the information regarding Arsenal's recent finances comes directly from the clubs published financial statements which are available from their website...... Are you serious with that second sentence? Jesus.....
in a good note, Malaga is banned for 4 years for breaching FFP rules sure city, PSG, Chelsea are next that at least will give decent clubs like Arsenal a better chance to compete now .. well done UEFA
Arsenal's finances have always been discussed on this forum. But the difference now is that we have a statement from Wenger that has confirmed that we've had to make transfer decisions based on our financial restraints. To most it was blindingly obvious that we were never going to be able to compete with the bottomless pit of oil money that City and Chelsea poured into their teams, but there were those still who chose to blame Wenger for it all. In a nutshell it was a cheap shot.
i don't think money's got anything to do with playing sh!t players like Gervinho, Denilson, and co. So Wenger does get the rightful blame for persisting with such useless players.
I have never said that Wenger is faultless, but you have to look at it realistically and finances DO play a big part. We've basically been trying to balance the books. So we were never going to be able to go out and replace players like Fabregas, Nasri, RVP etc with equivalent talent as they would have been out of our price range.
