" This boy's a fool " I did say that my list may "not necessarily" be in the correct order. Could even be reversed . . . . .
For all the talk of the invincibles, they still only won the league that year, failed to defend it the following year and Wenger has never won the C.L. There is no way in hell Wenger can be considered a better manager than Mourinho. His Chelsea team took the title off the invincibles, only lost one game that year in the league, got the most points ever accumalted in a P.L season and also won the Carling Cup and retained the title the following year. As good a tag the invicible is, they were not as good as the Chelsea team 04-06 nor the treble winning United team, that's pretty much fact. Again, Nicholson, great achievements in the context of Spurs and English football but can't be compared to Mourinho's record. Save for Madrid, he took every team he managed up 2 or 3 levels, it's not just money.
Mourinho's Chelsea were better than the Invincibles, both Chelsea title winning Chelsea sides accumulated more points than them, in the first season we broke records and bar a fluke defeat at City we'd have gone unbeaten as well. What's more is that we only lost 4 times across all competitions (2 of those in the CL due to scandalous refereeing. The Invincibles lost 6 times across other competitions.
Have you never heard the saying ' to win you have to dare to lose' arsenal drew a few games at the end of the season, as they were determined not to lose that record, had they just gone out and played freely I'm sure they would have won a few more games, the points difference between arsenal invincibles and Chelsea the following year was not that big. Anyway the greatest of all time for me was jock stien, he won the EC with a starting 11 all born within 20 - 30 miles of parkhead, now that's what you call an achievement, even if jose wins the next 10 CL in a row it still won't top stiens achievement in my opinion.
what a bitter how on earth any of above are even comparable to Sir Alex ? you are just ignorant isn't, did you read history of above managers ? ok will go straight to your top of the list, Rinus Michels, who had one great team of Ajax used them for holland team, and that is it .. he managed Ajax after that and failed and Barca twice for 6 seasons win only the title once !!! and showed the door everytime, then zero titles for a top3 club in Germany during 3 seasons , and he has been shown the door at every club since .. Sir Alex never been sacked for bad performance, he was a success at every single club he managed .. he was never one trick pony, but kept building one great side after another
When I made the thread I didn't expect such a heavy response from rival fans. Not that there's any problem with that after all this is an open forum for anyone to get involved in so long as they want to talk football. Had I of known this thread would have been so well received in hindsight I probably would have made the question more open rather than putting forward my own opinion and discussing from that.
Shwan, my whole thing is, how can you have a top 10 without Fergie in it? OK, if you don't like him, have him at #5,7,10,whatever. But to totally dismiss his achievements? The sickness is deep!!
i know mate how ridiculous is that !! .. it shows how bitter or ignorant those fans are .. i can see no other logical option tbh to explain snubbing Sir Alex completely .. the guy is a joke, i doubt he read the history of those mangers you know in my life i seen many ignorants who think by snubbing the obvious they are smarter than the rest of us .. the author seem one of them...he wrote it and was thinking "yeahh all experts have no clue.. take a look to my list, Sir Alex is not even in top10.. how smart i must be !!! " .. sure stating the obvious will not them look people with out of world intelligence i dare him to nominate one manager who is better than Sir Alex .. he bloody put Rinus Michels as no.1 ? WTF? the guy come back to Ajax win nothing, gone to Barca, was horrible , gone to koln who were a top3 and win the title 2 years before he come and was crap .. in which world that is best manager !! the story of fails is more than success in his life
.. the guy live in a world of his own .. he can do stand-up comedy just by talking about his opinions
Rio - £30m Veron - £28m RVN - £19m You seem to have caught KPRitis...inflate the value of every Man Utd transfer to try and suit your argument... Might have helped if you hadn't made your intentions clear with the reference to SAF in your first sentence. When someone feels the need to write a top ten list then specifically state why they are excluding a certain candidate, it's very clear it's all about trying to do down the person they've excluded. Especially when you felt the need to justify missing out SAF and yet didn't feel the need to justify why you excluded other great managers like Happels, Hitzfeld (who both piss all over Capello and Hiddink), Shankly, Ancelotti, Cruyff, Del Bosque etc.
Its clear that most fans don't rate your overvalued stock, obviously for you glory hunters you can't see further than Guilford or Surrey. That's great its your opinion but don't swing it on here with that United mantra bullshit because we know the man was **** scared to move away from the vast sums of money to test his skill abroad like the great Mourinho & Michels did.
Great domestic coach. We are narrow-minded little Englanders, we are parochial so we can't see past SAF as the greatest. If we broadened our minds we would see that Saffa constant failings to build a truly great European side despite lots of money and 20 odd years of relative stability precludes him from being considered a European great.
