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question about Southampton game

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by andy2402, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. andy2402

    andy2402 Member

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    hi. have watched the game highlights again on tv. people saying the handball was the only thing that was wrong thing in lamberts goal how about the free kick been given at all. if you look a footage our player did not touch him there player took 3-4 steps then fall down but they say shaw was pulled backwards by our player but you can see by footage that our player only swung his arms at him but did not touch him at all and if you get pulled backwards i thought you fall backwards not take a few steps forward then fall down. in my view is that shaw is a cheat going down without being touched and the referee was poor as well. i know it his first game back as referee but he was easily coned by that free kick and some other things. if every referee gave free kicks for not touching a player for miles and the player falling on the floor all you will see every game is every player fall over fall over every second.

    rant over what do you think.
     
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  2. Carra_Rud

    Carra_Rud Active Member

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    I was sat right in front of it and I thought it was a foul, no question. Didn't see the handball either.
     
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  3. Walsh.i.am

    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member
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    That answers that, then. Plus there is no way a free kick - whether rightly or wrongly awarded can be rescinded/altered so largely irrelevant.
    All refs get things slightly wrong in all games, so I don't think it's turning into a witch hunt, particularly? Onwards to Sunderland on Sunday <ok>
     
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  4. redruthyella

    redruthyella Active Member

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    I thought the ref did well considering the spotlight was well and truly on him. It looked to me as well, that his linesmen were the same ones as at Stamford Bridge. Do they operate in trios?
    I knew he wasn't going to give anything controversial and to be fair he could have booked Holt the amount of times he whistled him up. If he'd disallowed Lambert's goal then controversy. If he had given us the penalty at the end, then more controversy. Whether or not they were the correct decisions, in this case, I can understand he wouldn't want to be headlines the next day. And to be fair, neither team really protested about any of the decisions. It was arms up appealing but no chasing up the pitch.
     
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  5. canary_max

    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    yep i thought he was good, tried to let the play go on. could have dished a few cards out in the first half but let them go.
     
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  6. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it was a bit of a dodgy goal that on another day could have been disallowed, and the free-kick was a bit of a contentious one that on another day wouldn't have been given, but it was no different (almost identical really) from the one we were awarded on Saturday where we nicked our equaliser so none of us can have any complaints at all about that, bit of instant karma perhaps.

    Good point away there, definitely happy with the result even if the performance wasn't the greatest <ok>
     
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  7. RiverEndRick

    RiverEndRick Well-Known Member

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    Agree with Tony here and think that a draw was a fair result. Both sides had a touch of luck with their goals and thus it evened out. Good result and in 13th having played 6 home games and 8 away games looks good to me. OTBC!
     
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  8. canary_max

    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    i forgot about this - hope we can take advantage with 4 of the next 6 at home - chelsea and manc city in those at home. Chance of something out of the chelsea game
     
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  9. redruthyella

    redruthyella Active Member

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    I think the Mankini game will be the real test of our system. We drop off and say to the opposition you won't get through us so what are you going to do. I thought Baines showed on Saturday they we are still vulnerable around the box to one/two's and close dribblers as Suarez does. That then pulls the rest out of place. No matter how much discipline and shape you have, you can't legislate for close skill. And Silva and Nasri do have that skill.
    But by then I am hopeful we will have another 7 points which would be magnificent at the halfway stage of the season and we have to expect the stronger clubs to beat us.
     
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  10. ncfcwonky

    ncfcwonky New Member

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    Read the Telegraph's report on the game. They weren't too fussed about Lambert's handball (haven't seen the highlights yet, too hungover) but when it came to the freekick for our goal they were all over it saying it was a bad decision.

    Also, they suggested that Southampton should have been guaranteed a victory because of home advantage (fair enough) and the fact their squad is more expensive (which isn't a good reason). Lambert proved that you can do well by fishing players from the lower leagues who are worth stuff all. Just look at Fox, I know he's not playing at the moment, he's a brilliant player and we only paid £75k for him!
     
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  11. Cruyff's Turn

    Cruyff's Turn Well-Known Member

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    This time last season we had 16 points from 14 games,7home,7away.So we are slightly ahead.
     
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  12. canary_max

    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    wonky, that report sounds BS. i was not that impressed with southampton. even if there was a question over the snoddy free kick, we deserved a point out of that game
    not a big fan of the telegraph sport, they are obsessed with the big clubs.
     
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  13. GozoCanary

    GozoCanary Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I read the Telegraph report. It sounded like the guy who was doing it felt he was slumming. Several of his comments showed that he hadn't bothered to do any research at all. He was totally negative about the game, saying how dull and poor it was (he probably thought Chelsea vs Man City was wonderful because it had clubs he had heard of in it). He was dismissive rather than 'not fussed' about the lead up to the Soton goal, saying that our fans were 'fancying' it was a handball.

    What pisses me off is that someone like him is getting paid good money for not doing his job properly.
     
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  14. ncfcwonky

    ncfcwonky New Member

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    The Telegraph is usually the best in terms of reporting football, and sport in general compared to other national newspapers - their coverage of the Olympics was great. But their reports, particularly recently, are usually clouded by their view that money talks in football. Southampton buy more expensive players so automatically they must be better.

    They've also reported on QPR quite heavily recently. Again, because they have a lot of money and the media like Redknapp.
     
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  15. Carra_Rud

    Carra_Rud Active Member

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    My goodness. there is/was no doubt that Snodgrass was taken out by Clyne. I really don't understand why so many people are doubting that it was a foul!
     
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  16. redruthyella

    redruthyella Active Member

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    One of the easiest decisions the ref had to make. And they got away with the penalty at the end. Reeves was not in control when he tackled Snodgers so in most books that is reckless and a foul. But no complaints from us.
     
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  17. goldeneadie

    goldeneadie Well-Known Member

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    .the commentator on the stream i watched said he thought it was a definite penalty. what were Southampton doing with their wall when Snoddy scored.they were several yards out of position and he could see the entire goal. though a draw was probably the fair result.
     
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  18. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    A lot of frustration at the ref from our fans but I've worked out why you don't give away many free kicks. You only made about five tackles in the whole game! And even they were pretty apologetic in nature. In fact I thought you defended well for the whole game, stood up really well to Lallana and Ramirez, and the end result was we barely got a run at goal. Both goals had a hint of scrap though so whatever anyone thinks of the ref, a draw was probably fair and not a bad return for either side.
     
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