Knee Jerks...

I shouldn't be surprised by all the over-the-top reactions that our last two results have produced, but I really can't help but wonder if we're watching the same games?

I would be hugely concerned if we weren't creating chances, but we are... we must have had 25-30 efforts on Swansea's goal yesterday...

If we'd scored 6 Swansea couldn't have complained but the facts are that we missed a huge number of chances both this amd last week.

When I read comments from Newcastle United fans bemoaning Pardew's long-term contract etc because we've had two poor home results, I start to think that either frustration is getting the better of them or they are simply clueless about football.

Newcastle United could have beaten West Ham & Swansea with the amount of chances that we created - I agree we've not played well, but which team does play well every game? Manchester United? Chelsea? Manchester City?

Nope, they dont.

How quickly people forget how highly decorated Alan Pardew was last season for the amazing job he did...

...it seems now we're destined to be playing to empty stadiums in the N-Power football league sometime soon!

You know who you are, so please, let's have some perspective and hold-up on the nonsense.

 

Don't expect to play well in every game mate, just to play well and deserve to win in one game would be nice

I'm not Pardew's biggest fan (i'm sure everyone has picked up on that by now ), but just because I'm in the minority does that mean I shouldn't voice my opinion??? It's not like people are at each other's throat over it, it just sparks some healthy debate

 

I believe the majority haven't been slating wor pards, therefore a non issue.

 

Really?

Have you read through the comments on the threads currently on page 1 of this board?

 

I'm all for healthy and reasoned debate, it just seems a little lacking on here currently.

 

Pardew out!
Allardyce in!

 

We'll have to agree to disagree. We've had a poor start to this season, results and performances have been below the standard expected. When that happens some fans are going to ask questions of the manager, it's only natural in my opinion.

It's not like people (mainly me) are just slating Pardew without reason and we're (mainly me) not just saying he's sh*t get rid of him. Concerns such as never winning after going behind under him are being raised. It's not done in an argumentative manner, well it's certainly not mean to come across that way

 

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Have to agree with Bespoke. The ones which display frustration are understandable. The ones who turn on manager, blame the players they obviously dislike (normally Simpson) and talk of relegation are a bit fairweather for me.

I thought Simpson was ok yesterday to be honest and is having a good season. If Demba had had his shooting boots on it would have been a different game. Krul had a mare but we knew these days would come when we went with a young keeper. Still the right decision. Look at Hart at present.

 

No one's slating him just for the last two games, we're slating him for the ongoing lack of any tactical direction, and completely unmotivated players. The poor results don't help, but they're not the sole reason for the recent criticism of him.

He made plenty of tactical blunders last season (Like the long-ball/high line that cost us 2 points against Wolves) as well, they were just (perhaps rightly) overlooked because other things were generally going our way.
This season all of our players have looked far worse - No one can put in a setpiece properly, no one can cross properly, Cisse can't shoot anymore, Krul has been looking dodgy all season, etc. etc.

The great results from last season mean absolutely nothing when the team looks like a bunch of amateurs this season.

 

Don't think he's on about you so much to be honest. I've read some other moronic comments which I think he is on about.

 

Its this kind of stuff that makes me cringe and laugh in equal measure.

 

Laugh all you like, we both know it's true.

 

I think bunch of amateurs is a bit strong to be fair. My main concern/worry is that I can't see Cabaye & Ben Arfa being happy with our style of football and if the long ball continues I could see them eventually losing faith/trust in Pardew which would be disastrous.

Some fans are likely to be a bit knee jerk to be fair, we have a passionate support, when Newcastle lose it ruins weekends for people. Pardew keeps telling us in his interviews that he knows our set plays are poor, that we're not dominating the ball like we should etc, I'm just waiting for him to do something about the problems he (and the fans) have highlighted. Once I see signs of that he'll give me more confidence in him.

I like the way Pardew talks, if he can back that up with his actions we'll most definitely improve.

 

No you think that. Speak for yourself, don't try and speak for me. I think your opinions will look amateur come the end of the season

 

Have you ever watched amateur football?

 

Were churning out some terrible performances, and these chances you speak of were from shots from crazy angles and distances.

Their not clear cut at all.

West Ham and Swansea both deserved to beat us, they played better and created the better chances.

We're not going to get relegated, we just need to pull our finger out!

 

I'm sure he'll have caught a glimpse of Sunderland on the box once or twice

 

What happens at the end of the season doesn't really change what's happened so far, and the fact is that we've been awful. Pardew might turn it around, he might not, but there's no sense in pretending there isn't a problem like you seem to be doing. I'm not saying we're going to get relegated but it's not likely we'll be anywhere near the European places either.

I'm not expecting us to start thrashing everyone but there does need to be some indication of progress in terms of tactics over the next few games, regardless of the results.

 

Not at all. We haven't played well, but if history tells us a couple of things, its that there is a long way to go and we shouldn't be going into a state of panic/overeacting as you appear to be. We shall see but I think we'll be in the 5th-8th bracket which would be another good season. Regardless we need to stick with the team and not turn on them like many modern fans seem to at the first sign of poor form. Its fairweather support if we do.

 

I think many fans are seeing us not actually look any better than average teams. West Ham had little threat yet we couldn't score against them - that game might have been the tipping point for alot of grumblings that we just don't look a decent side this season in most, but not all, of our games. Our midfield and wingers are usually 2nd best to the opposition.

The thing is that there was minimal investment in the summer, despite a European campaign to fight and that is now costing us valuable points. It's not having a go Alan Pardew, though he will never show us he might be putting any pressure on to get a bit more help in playing numbers.

In terms of tactics, Pardew is finding little attacking threat down the left, and we are seriously short of a centre half and fullback.

In my view (call it hyterical if you like) we should go all out for winning a trophy, since we have next to no chance of getting into Europe by finishing in the top 6 or 7.

We'll end up mid-table at best, but maybe bottom half. I think we're too good to go down.