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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by TinosTreble, Nov 13, 2012.

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  1. TinosTreble

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    Wouldn't normally post something like this on here on my first day of posting but I'm on a train from Leeds to Manchester and quite bored tbh so there is a subject I'd like to get off my chest and maybe offer a solution.

    Diving is my one pet hate in football, I've had it against myself in Sunday league and seen it many a time in the prem while it tears my hair out I offer a solution...

    ...imagine the fourth official or maybe even an official who wasn't even involved in the game watches the game from all angles possible to determine diving. The punishment when caught would be a 5 game ban and a hefty fine for the club in question. Surely this would stamp out diving and if a certain team keeps offending then points would be deducted. FIFA need to stamp it out early so it doesn't hamper football for the next generation.
     
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  2. Sammy's Silky Skills

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    I believe it should be made an automatic red card. This should stop some from trying to cheat the man in black.
     
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  3. TinosTreble

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    If a referee sees it during the game then yeah they should be auto sent off, was referring more to the dives the ref doesn't see
     
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  4. Albert's Chip Shop

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    5 games is fair mate.
     
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  5. TinosTreble

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    I'd also add that it has to be in that competition the ban stands so for example if the dive happened in the prem then the ban only applies in the Premier league etc.
     
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  6. Geordie lass in the Fen

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    All in all l have to agree with the sentiment expressed by the OP. Diving or any form of deliberate act designed to deceive for advantage is not clever or excused by claiming everybody does it now, its cheating plain and simple. It needs to be stamped out of the modern game and if sanction is the way to achieve this then fine. However, as with all decisions the officials have to make under the present circumstances (no technology in place as yet) to assist their decision making, we would have to be prepared to accept that as with Red Card fouls, penalty kicks, disallowed goals, over the line not over the line, there will be times when the official calls it wrong. I agree that a
    Red Card and ban for diving/cheating may prove to be something of a deterrent, l would also want the player involved to retain the right to appeal any such sanction.
    Let's be honest whilst we are discussing it, some in our team are no innocents in this respect either. Stephen Taylor will quite often dive in the penalty box, not in order to gain a penalty, more to cover up the fact he may have given one away.
     
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  7. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Retrospective action when it is obvious would be a start. People will say "but how can you know, some are really clever at it". If you start with the blatant ones,it will send a message. Its like the DRS system in cricket. Its better to be getting more decisions right than fearing the ones you can't.
     
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  8. ...And Out Come the Wolve

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    When is a dive a dive? When is going down easily?

    Thats the problem.
     
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  9. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    As I say, deal with the obvious first and get right what you can. The whole issue is subjective but in amongst all the disagreements are some very obvious attempts to cheat and con the ref. I think if we take action on those, we'll see a positive impact on other situations. It can not and will not be eradicated. However we can have a more positive approach. If we sit on our hands wondering how we get it 100% correct, it will continue to spiral.

    Yes you'll get the moaners who feel there are double standards but the bottom line is it is out of control.
     
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    When the ****ers at the FA etc cannot even bring themselves to recind obvious wrong red and yellow caeds. What chance do you have. They are lazy spineless ****ers. Some refs decisions are just wrong. It's human. Get over it and clear up some wrong decisions now and again and the players will realise they are not getting away with it and the game will progress.
     
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  11. TinosTreble

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    Or maybe to stop a blatant goal going in and then pretending to be shot.
     
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    A certain Liverpool player may never play again.
     
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    Like many things now, there should be retrospective action but as always, the FA will do sweet FA!
     
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    Cheers Agent B - new today and just finding things out!
     
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    You'll find lots of things out given time. <ok>
     
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  20. Geordie lass in the Fen

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    Corruption of the innocents lol
     
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