1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

First choice goalkeeper?

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Reginald, Nov 10, 2012.

?

Southampton's #1

  1. Artur Boruc

  2. Kelvin Davis

  3. Paulo Gazzaniga

Multiple votes are allowed.
Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. Reginald

    Reginald Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    5
    With Davis having been out of the picture for a couple of months, Boruc's attitude still under scrutiny following water-bottle gate, and Gazza's error today, none of them seem to be an outstanding candidate to make the #1 spot their own. You could certainly make a case for any of the three starting vs QPR. I do feel the most important thing is to pick one of the three now and stick with them for the rest of the season, barring an injury or dreadful loss of confidence or form.
    Who would you choose?
     
    #1
  2. Don Cortese

    Don Cortese Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    339
    Likes Received:
    2
    Boruc. Experience and proven at the highest level
     
    #2
  3. seizetheday

    seizetheday New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2012
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    All three are not really Premiership keepers so its difficult to choose, Gazzaniga has the most potential obviously to be one though.
     
    #3
  4. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    35,745
    Likes Received:
    9,708
    Gazza makes one mistake and he should be dropped?. Davis has made loads of mistakes and deserved to get dropped, as for Boruc no thanx.
     
    #4
  5. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

    RickieLambertsGoldenBoot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,391
    Likes Received:
    37
    Gazzaniga


    The ball should never have gone all the way back in the first place...
     
    #5
  6. Reginald

    Reginald Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    5
    Boruc is certainly my choice as well. Anyone who was aware of him at his peak at Celtic would have to agree. People don't even realise he was nominated for the FIFPro World XI less than five years ago while playing in the SPL! He's looked overweight and seriously lacking match practice in the two games so far, but if and hopefully when he gets anywhere near his best again people will start to realise what a remarkable 'keeper we've somehow managed to sign. At 32, he's hopefully got another five years left in him. Give it a couple of months and he'll be in and around the top 5 goalkeepers in the league IMO.
     
    #6
  7. OddRiverOakWizards

    OddRiverOakWizards Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2011
    Messages:
    9,018
    Likes Received:
    3,000
    I think we will see Boruc back again, but we cannot keep changing.
     
    #7
  8. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,397
    Likes Received:
    71
    I don't like to judge Kelv based on his performances against United, City and Arsenal. I think against more ordinary teams like Swansea he'd have kept his head.
     
    #8
  9. TBD

    TBD Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    887
    Likes Received:
    112
    There all fairly similar so should just stick with Gazza we badly need a settled back line, that can't have helped at all that we've changed the keeper 3 times already this season.
     
    #9
  10. Reginald

    Reginald Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    5
    Didn't say he SHOULD be dropped, i'm saying that as he's come in and unfortunately made a costly mistake, there's certainly a debate to be had about who should start vs QPR. tbh I'm just curious to see who wins this poll, as opinion on the subject amongst fans seems to be pretty equally divided.
     
    #10

  11. seizetheday

    seizetheday New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2012
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    This is exactly where I question Adkins abililty to manage in the Premiership, I understand that Boruc has had an investigation into his behaviour over the Spurs game but surely this could not lead to him not playing in games where he would of been considered, it is an admirable principle but also a gamble.
    He should publicly come out and say who his number 1 is, this will lead to some stability at least in that department.
     
    #11
  12. Reginald

    Reginald Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    5
    I can't agree. Gazza is 20, which IMO is far too young for a top flight 'keeper. De Gea is the exception, but clearly destined for stardom. He didn't even break into Gillingham's first team until the back end of last season. I don't like getting on players backs and this isn't me being reactionary, but he's made one save (from Ki) in the last two games and was at fault for the goal today. I sympathise with him as I feel he is under huge amounts of pressure to succeed at such a young age. A few years down the line, I hope he can be a long term number one for us. But if you compare him to the other 19 Premier League starting 'keepers I can't think of one i wouldn't have over him in the short term. Boruc, who is eight years younger than Friedel, was one of five goalkeepers shortlisted for a World XI. He probably hasn't even peaked yet. Regardless of his attitude, I hope Nige picks him as he could be worth so many points this season.
     
    #12
  13. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    I don't know what the fuss is about. Gazzaniga makes one mistake and suddenly he should be dropped. Yep, that'll do his confidence wonders.

    All keepers make mistakes. Sometimes they get away with them, sometimes they don't. Gazzaniga has pretty much been there on merit. He'll learn from his experience. SKD has shown himself to be a little nervous in the PL, so far, and has made a couple of mistakes too. As an absolute shot stopper he's still great. As a distributor of the football, Gazzaniga wins hands down, even when considering his error against Swansea. So far, Boruc has shown himself to be, what Nigel calls, a wrong 'un. You don't lose your temper with fans, and make gestures, when you've only been at the club for 5 minutes. Whatever his ability, I think Nigel will be reluctant to rely on him.
     
    #13
  14. Saint_AJ

    Saint_AJ New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2012
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gazza for me. While his age is a concern from what I've seen of him he is fairly composed and mature considering his tender years. All keepers make mistakes, and I'm not a fan of changing your keeper for a mistake as it can ruin their confidence.

    Boruc just doesn't seem to have the right mentality for a club in our situation (in a dog fight) comes across as someone who will lose their temper with the defenders and ruin their confidence even more.
     
    #14
  15. Ivan Golac's shoe laces

    Ivan Golac's shoe laces Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2011
    Messages:
    255
    Likes Received:
    84
    Gazza for me , he has a presence about him and I like that in a keeper....chopping and changing does no good stick with him. Today's goal for Swansea should he have hoofed it up the park who knows, should have Yoshida dealt with it a bit better who knows , should the ball have gone back to the keeper in the first place who knows but it happened. Lets just move on and not let it spoil perhaps the best performance of the season so far.
     
    #15
  16. Saints Fan4Life

    Saints Fan4Life Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    17,358
    Likes Received:
    10,715
    Gazzaniga. Has done nothing wrong, and will grow in confidence
     
    #16
  17. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    10,012
    Likes Received:
    53
    Seriously?

    He's done ok by and large, but today he looked a bit uncomfortable at times even before his error. I wouldn't say he's done enough wrong to be dropped though, but his youth and relatively poor command of English can't be helping the disorganisation we've had in defence this season.

    On paper Boruc is by far the best keeper we have. It's fair to say we have not seen the best of him. He came into the side lacking a bit of fitness and sadly his attitude, which I questioned before we even signed him, has now let him down. If (and it's a fairly big if at this point) he can get back to somewhere near his best form and he is able to stay out of trouble, he is an automatic first pick.
     
    #17
  18. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    Yes, I would agree on the points you make but, as the old saying goes, we have yet to play football on paper. Yes, if he was 100% fit, alert and his attitude was right, he'd be the first choice keeper. But clearly, he isn't.
     
    #18
  19. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2011
    Messages:
    35,745
    Likes Received:
    9,708
    Well it looks like Gazza is most peoples first choice, which is good.
     
    #19
  20. Dan

    Dan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    16,211
    Likes Received:
    132
    Quite surprised at how few are going with Boruc, he's clearly the most able keeper.
     
    #20

Share This Page