Racism Focus At The Lane?

Fat Frank, tongue in cheek

Would you ignore the opinon of Ledley King also ?

 

I would, he is loved for his football skills not his political opinions.

 

Ignoring his opinions because they don't suit your own ?

 

Absolutely and no apologies for that.

I have backed my opinions with facts unlike your argument which is based on your opinion . Ledley wasn't asked and I am not about to speak for or against him, he can look after his own presentation well enough.

 

Facts ?

What facts are those ?

My 'opinion' is based on those of Ledley King, Gary Lineker, Keiran Gibbs, Rachel Yankey, the kick it out campaign, Jewish writers and that of your own Chairman

My opinion is based on the fact that shouting 'Yiddo' at a football match is not particularly well advised, whatever your intent.

 

Never mind PISKIE it will not make any difference to repeat them. They are posted quite clearly.

 

They can't stop us from singing songs such as 'Jermain Defoe, he's a Yiddo' surely? I've never seen that as derogatory?

 

Opinion stated as fact is not fact it is your opinion.

 

Nothing left but that, sorry.

 

That is precisely the point that I am making

 

No need to apologise, just to recognise that it's your opinion, not fact

 

You could replace the word with Yo-Yo, referencing his form

 

I am reminded of a man standing under a collapsing bridge holding up an umbrella.

 

Sorry Lidls, but you'd have to show that the chants were threatening, abusive or insulting, which they're clearly not.
Whether individuals are offended by the chants or not is irrelevant.

 

Why not as I've said twice, black rappers do it and its acceptable. There again you do choose to ignore facts such is your agenda to carry on wumming...tedious.

 

Well that would be the experience of someone who's realised that his argument is based on his opinion and not hard facts

 

It's entirely relevant. The history of the word in the context that it's being used isn't abusive or insulting.
As has already been shown, with the Terry case, context is everything.

 

You're missing the point entirely and making wild assumptions about my agenda.

The point is that you can't simply use the defence that 'I didn't mean it' when you use derogatory language. If that were the case, no racist would ever be convicted, because they would simply say that they were misinterpreted, as Terry claimed.

If you find it tedious, then you can choose not to engage in this debate

 

Words aren't objectively abusive or insulting. If I'm explaining the definition of a word, for example, then I'm not being abusive or insulting, yet I'm using the word.
The context of the use of those words is entirely relevant.

 

PLUS PLUS the word can be neutral. LDL you can't ignore the official definition of the word either especially when you are quoting law in your argument.

The whole of this argument is based on the FALSE premise that YID is ONLY an offensive word, it is not.

This is not my opinion this is a fact supported by the Oxford Dictionary. How many times are people going to ignore the basic facts.