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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by joeisonfire, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. joeisonfire

    joeisonfire Well-Known Member

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    It could be worse, we could be just over 6% worse. So Bruce won 1 in 3 and MON just over that stat, but Bruce had more games.

    Bruce's run without a win was 14 games, but from memory that was towards the end of the season so no cup games.
    Our run isn't as bad with MON, we won at home to Wigan and a couple of cup games, so its not that bad. Just need to pull our socks up sooner rather than later

    MON

    Games 45
    Won 15
    Drew 12
    Lost 12
    Win ratio (35.71%)

    Bruce

    Games 98
    Won 29
    Drew 28
    Lost 41
    Win ratio (29.59%)
     
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  2. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Interesting that if you basically double MON's stats, they would come out close to identical to Bruce's in terms of games won, but we have lost left than half as many.

    A pointer to our main gripe, that we are simply too defensive?
     
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  3. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I don't want to be pedantic but if you win 15 out of 45 games, that's exactly 33.333% win ratio.

    At Villa by the way, after one year in charge he won 11 Premier League games and finished 11th with 17 (Seventeen) draws.

    Perspective.
     
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  4. mackemwelder

    mackemwelder Well-Known Member

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    Comparing MON's stats to Bruces might mean he is slightly better, still doesn't mean he is good, however compare them to a decent manager and see how he fairs.
     
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    Slightly better then Bruce's, but still poor.
     
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  6. joeisonfire

    joeisonfire Well-Known Member

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    I think Mr Short has to be thinking of other managers, at the end of the day its his business and its most profitable being in the PL , and thats where he needs it to remain. We appointed MON in Dec 2011, In Nov we have Everton and Fulham away, and WBA and QPR at home. We NEED to win our home games. If we get anything less than 6 points, given the teams we are facing in December, then i dont think it looks good and he may look elsewhere.

    MON has a fantastic managerial record and i hope and pray he can turn this around, lets start with some shots on target against Everton :)
     
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  7. blackcatsteve

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    MON has had 42 games in charge of Sunderland hence the discrepancy in the %.

    Bruces 1st 42 games

    won 14
    drew 12
    lost 16

    not that much difference
     
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    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    What are they?!
     
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  9. reginald-cheese

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    Erm 45 games W15 D 12 L 12 doesn't add up.

    Using the W D L stats, that's not bad .. not great but we can't expect much better than that given the number of teams in the league that are " out of our league"
     
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  10. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    its

    42 games

    won 15
    drawn 15
    lost 12

    win ratio 35.71%
     
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  11. Nordic

    Nordic Well-Known Member

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    Given that he's done this with a 'weak as piss' strike force, bar the improvement at the start of this season ......could we expect much more?
     
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