King Kenny admits the way Liverpool handled the Luis Suarez affair was 'misguided' but says it had no bearing on him being sacked. Kenny Dalglish says his handling of the Luis Suarez racism row did not cost him the Liverpool job - but he admits he would handle things differently if it came up again. King Kenny was sacked at the end of last season despite winning the Carling Cup, Liverpool's first trophy in six years. The campaign was dominated by Suarez's racism case which resulted in the Uruguay striker being banned for eight matches for racially abusing Manchester United defender Patrice Evra. Dalglish was criticised for defending Suarez while the club's decision to allow players to wear T-shirts in support of the player also came under fire. Asked whether the Suarez saga cost him his job Dalglish said: "I don't think so. That was up to them [owners Fenway Sports Group]. "I can go to sleep at night knowing what I did I did to the best of my ability and if that does not come up to their expectations or they want to go in another direction - they own the club. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/kenny-dalglish-says-patrice-evra-1411601
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Ach, its a no brainer. Once everyone stepped back from the confrontational we can be big enough to admit it could have been handled either better with the honest approach or sneakier with the keep the mouth shut approach. Lessons learned, well maybe not by Jen Chang ironically. Lol. It's only right he gets a chance to air his side. He's not been overtly critical but there's enough there to know how hurt he was by it. But business is business & he's been in & around it for a long time. More than any of us. He knows the score. He separates the club made up of players past & present & fans with the business that's not warm & fuzzy. And what's MFG going to say that we don't already know? We all know KD doing better scuppered FSG's plans of installing their own candidate & any excuse would do to remove him. The fact that there were enough people with an attitude to Kenny like MFG has with BR allowed FSG to hide behind excuses like "league performance". this should have him heed his own warnings of doom. Nobody believes it was done well but its not the first clumsy action by FSG & it wasn't the last. Either patience is correct all the time or it is not. Just because his lecturing doesn't serve him now the candidate isn't his should not change that. Because even if he somehow succeeds & Brendan goes the same way. Someone else might not like the next guy or the next guy. And then we are f*cked. Kenny has quite obviously waited for BR to bed in before giving an interview with the paper he now works for (probably a condition when hired). If KD can show that much respect to his replacement its not asking much for his supporters (I was one of them) to follow suit. New man in, owners are the owners & if BR's here long enough the entire team will be his one way or another. By that stage if you can't stomach anyone or anything associated with BR or FSG you're going to be hard pressed supporting LFC.
Although I don't think Kenny's handling of the Suarez affair had any bearing on him being dismissed. It should also never be used to tarnish his name either. There has been many comments like 'Kenny Dalglish is scum, he defended a racist''. If Luis Suarez is a racist, Elton John is a womaniser.
Obviously not. Otherwise they would've got rid of Suarez, wouldn't they? I mean if they were so offended by the whole affair then they just would've got rid of the person who had apparently racially abused a person, rather than getting rid of the people who had defended him.
Again its my only criticism of KD based on the interview & that is side stepping the t-shirt issue now. He was the manager, he wore one, he let the players wear them on camera which means he condoned & supported it otherwise as Manager he could just have said: not in club time or colours. Coming out & distancing by saying "it was the players idea" sounds slightly immature & I think highlights his 2 main weaknesses. Too close to the players like he was one of them (mentally I think he never stopped being one) Wasn't media savvy enough for this era (only talking media here) Now I'm not beating him over the head with these because no one was there to advise or back HIM so they have no right to criticise or highlight his faults. Which is why it was always wiser for them to just be honest & say we want our own man in our own regime. End of day, When I think of Kenny, I don't think of t shirts or Suarez, I think of a brilliant player & manager who epitomises everything good about LFC.
The t-shirt thing as a whole wasn't very clever, whoevers idea it was. Although any manager that says that he wouldn't show loyalty to one of his own players no matter what, even though they roast them alive behind closed doors is a hypocrite. How about this for a scenario, in the ''Being Liverpool documentary' Brendan Rodgers gives Raheem Sterling a verbal kick up the arse. Nobody knows what he said to him in private. This is the reverse to the give the roasting in private and standing behind their man in public scenario. Both when used correctly are effective.
IF FSG got rid of him over Suarez they should sell the club on now without making any profit, preferably to a worldwide fan buyout. We/he should have said utterly nothing like Schmeical was advised to bt Ferguson after he racially, and viciously abused ian Wright. We should have gone to court over the 8 match ban, for which there was not one shred of evidence. But let's not do this now - we all know where I stand: FSG **** themselves when the English media threatened a self-fulfilling prophecy that they'd toxify the FSG brand worldwide if they didn't bend the knee. Weak, spineless and will come back to haunt them. AND they need to know that for over 23 years the FA have been the mortal and implacable enemy of LFC - they, like terrorists and casino bankers, can't be negotiated with. Kenny knew that - and that the mail, Express, Sun and other media have had it in for him for decades for showing them all up back then. FSG will NEVER understand this - they're just a corporate business.
That is Dalglish's perception. He will never know the real reason why the owners got rid of him ( like mst of us will never know for sure the real reasons fr someone's actions although they may say things to your face). My own belief is that the owners thought that he had become detrimental to the brand as well as not meeting performance targets. Donga is right in the sense that the owners were very much influenced by the media's treatment of Liverpool at the time. The media turning against him really sealed his fate
Na, all an excuse. It would have took the first interview & reaction for these American (PR sensitive to the max) Businessmen to see KD was ill equipped to deal with the situation and yet they did nothing, showed no leadership and let him sink. It distracted from the pitch for most of the season which also suited them. They got what they wanted a split fan base and a hero tarnished both on and off the pitch in enough fans eyes that his removal wouldn't be met by vociferous protest. I'm not saying they engineered it that way as naïvety afterwards suggest they a slow learners but they made full use of all negative events of that year. But under it all was a want for their system, their way and KD was never it. As KD said himself, they're the owners, its their money to make or lose. Still leaves a bad taste in the mouth but its done & dusted. Lets hope they start learning a little quicker. Again, the interview has the feeling that he could say a lot more but has chosen not to out of his respect & love of the club. Most people would be off writing the book by now.
John Henry, "Hi Kenny, can you come over to Boston?" Kenny, "Hello boss, of course but why? John Henry, "We're going to sack you" Kenny, "Really?, for what reason?" John Henry, "I'm not telling you and you'll 'never know the real reason' nah nah nah nah nah"
Something in the tea round your way ? Agree with your sentiment âbut they need to educate us and give us a guideline.â Unfortunately lets him down abit. If you've got to his age, and with his experiences, and still need guidelines on what is and isn't racist, you're letting yourself down and a bloke in his position has the responsibilty to educate himself, as do we all. Of course, there are far many more, on this, and other forums, who merely conceal and disguise their ignorance and latent racism, with no desire to change at all. These boards are riddled with it ( Come on, you all know they are ), and even a year later, if some reconsider their tribalism tainted support and question it's legitamacy, it's not good enough in this day and age. As for being "media savvy" ? Let's not worry about that, and just not be racist in the first place, and if we witness it, call it. Look at the absolute dogs breakfast Chelsea are making of it with their own media saviness right now. ( That Dingo weirdo must be a total ****ing embarassment for your genuine supporters ? )
Nice attempt to twist what I was saying: sorry to disappoint you, you may go back to calling me a racist with the others. I was making no comment on whether it was right or wrong to wear the t-shirts or whether in doing so proved racist behaviour or supported racist behaviour. I was merely criticising KD for the way he is now distancing himself from the event. Either he still believes he was right in condoning & participating & continues to take the type of nonsense from pseudo campaigners such as yourself; or he states that on reflection he now believes it wasn't a good move for the club & although he still believes what he believed then, it could have been expressed differently. He's half way between with that statement & opens himself to criticism from all sides. See that's the trouble with us intellectuals knobby: we can & often do separate specifics from the over all without losing sight of either. He does echo one thing I've stated from day 1 of this issue. If an act is currently a criminal offence it should be passed to the CPS to deal with, as other employers would do. Alternatively the FA should as other employers do adopt the actual full employment law into their regulations but that would have meant the victims in these cases would also have become villains & everybody would have got sacked & suddenly all these clubs lose millions worth of players: can't have that can we? Not over something silly like racism and abuse in the work place. Now why do all you pseudo anti racism campaigners not insist on full employment law being implemented in football? I tell you why because the definition of race in that instances would cover xenophobia as well, terms such as you Irish twat or Scouse Git would be considered equally illegal, it would include all verbal abuse under harassment & bullying laws & suddenly a whole lot of people would be in the dock wouldn't they? Including large sections of fans. But no, better to be seen doing something by picking a colour and be seen to be protecting them. Because that hasn't caused division & segregation over the last year has it? The Clattenburg one should be interesting since I remember quite a number of people on here vainly attempting to make a distinction between xenophobia (Clattenburg on Torres, Evra on Suarez) with racism when employment law makes no such distinction. Were you one of then knobby?
"“but they need to educate us and give us a guideline.” Unfortunately lets him down abit. If you've got to his age, and with his experiences, and still need guidelines on what is and isn't racist, you're letting yourself down and a bloke in his position has the responsibilty to educate himself, as do we all." So in itself the word Suarez used is racist in all circumstances, even though both De Gea and Hernandez have used it? What about choc-ice?
Manc logic.If you pork your brothers wife, be caught with your pants down with prostitutes or skip a drugs test, you are a legend. However, if you refuse to shake another players hand, then you must be sent to the electric chair.
