Mignolet - 10m - young, getting better, big upside. Would be more, but prices for keepers have limits Westwood - 2m - good prospect Bardsley - 3m - utterly committed, but a shade shy of top quality Rose - 6m - LBs are hard to get and he could play a lot further up as well O'Shea - 0 - age/injury record against. Will continue to do a Prem job, but for how long? Brown - 0 - injury record bad. Not getting any younger Kilgallon - 1.5m - solid squad player with decent upside Bramble - 0 - chequered personal history. Getting on a bit Cuellar - 1m - if we mug someone. Larsson - 6m - international player who is lethal at dead ball situations. Hard grafter too, which often goes unnoticed Cattermole - 4-8m - discipline appalling (4m), but a beast in the middle if he can keep his head on straight (8m). Bad rep will keep prices low side Colback - 2.5m - potential upside the thing here. Gardner - 5m - could be more, if he can take games by the scruff of the neck more. I think he's better than he plays Vaughan - 1m - handy squad player with a big shot on him Meyler - 2m - really depends on progress on the international stage. Could attract a higher fee, but had injury issues Johnson - 6m - not doing his value any favours ATM Sessegnon - 12m - still a quality player and people know he's in a bad team McClean - 1m - still very young with a big upside, but his attitude looks crappy from here. Project for MON, but I wouldn't answer offers of less than 1m, even now Fletcher - 15m - worth more than we paid on form so far. Top bloke who deserves more chances than he's getting Saha - 0 - really can't see him having a sell-on value after his injuries. Undoubted talent though, so if he still has something in the tank we should keep, not sell Wickham - 5m - just to put off potential offers. I like the look of him, but how we get him Prem experience to develop is an issue Ji - 2m - SPL standard easily, so 2m off Celtic not unreasonable. Could be better given time, but how much will he get? MON seems to rate him though... Campbell - 1m - bit lightweight, but a real trier. Not convinced by him overall, but he's a good kid
Marcus, I totally admire you for being Catt's biggest fan - great to see supporters putting so much belief and faith into their players mate. Difference is with Newcastle and Sunderland, it's simple. Pardew inherited a team with momentum, belief and passion in abundance. He picked up the tools from his predecessor and carried on his good work, didn't have to recruit his own scouts and back room staff either, he had the fans to win over and that was it - I'm sure the 3-0 win against us helped him massively. O'Neill on the other hand, picked up a side that were massively low on confidence and had very little belief and passion in their game. He had a massive boulder to try and push back up the hill, instead of jumping aboard a train which was already gathering pace. Given the circumstances of each manager, it's unfair to compare them at such early stages in their tenures. O'Neill hasn't got a massive task on his hands, but he does still need to do some spring cleaning with the club he inherited, he has different visions to what Bruce had and it was always going to be a marathon rather than a sprint for him, given the new FFP rules and budgetary constraints that go with it.
I know you've bought and sold, but your net spend is definitely more than 10m. In fact - http://hereisthecity.com/2012/03/29...rities-of-the-premier-league-top-10-by-net-s/ It's nearly 6x more. Actually it's probably even more due to these stats are only up until the 2011/12. Anyways, you're right, MON deserves time
I find it hard to believe considering the sales of Bent, Henderson, Jones, Cana and Gyan but it's there in black and white, so fair enough.
They are miles off Tash, why is there no breakdown. Only way that is accurate is if it is taking in wages, which sadly under Keano & Bruce were outrageous. PROFIT not sale value... Bent - £14 million Jordan - £16million That's £30million, as the Bent fee off £10million has already been creamed, and only Sess (6), Gardner (6), Catts (4) and AJ (10) cost any real money, it looks like bollocks to me. £12million for Fletch. That's a £8million out on the biggest fees, please trawl and find, therefore, another £49million of signings. They do not exist.
It was mainly the wrong manager with the wrong amount of funds mate, Brucey wasn't very good for you long term. MON should do better.
Tash, like Mush im starting to think that just can't be right. Bent - 24m Jones - 8m? Henderson 16m Cana - 5m Gyan - 12m Just off them 5, that's 65m. Then there's the likes of Murphy and all them who we made a few quid off as well. The spending doesnt take into consideration Fletcher and Johnson purchases, so do you honestly think we have spent about 140-150m?
I can't be bothered to dig that deep, coz I aint trying to have a go, but your net spend is definitely way more than 10m. Most sources seem to agree than your net spend is the highest outside the top club bracket. Regardless, I think we can agree that spending is something your club hasn't often done that well, and you've had a rich owner backing you with a good amount of money.
I'd suggest our net spend will be poking around the £15-18million mark just off the top off my head after subtracting those sales. I will agree that we haven't bought well at points, only Sess at £6million, Mig at 650k & the excellent O'Shea leap out. Fletch needs to get back in the goals to get in there, but he is a smashing footballer, and I have no doubt he will more than justify his tag long term.
Oh yes me suggesting a side currently sitting second in their group in the CL are better than you is cocky. Silly me.
In 2007/08 our net spend was £40 million so for the next 4 years to be 17 million thats not bad at all and works out correct (ish) last year was £12.5 million so for the last 5 years its about £30 million net spend and MON spent £12.5 million of that this summer (net).
Second? In a group of how many...? anyway, I wasn't saying you aren't better than us at the moment. I was saying that couldn't beat us while Boro could and that there's a lot of games to go in the season. You see, the clue is in the words. Silly you.
I know you've not been in the CL but thought you'd know there were 4 (don't shout). Anyways your point was a complete non-sequitur to my point anyways
CL? I like to think we'd know the difference between the EL and the CL, were we in the former. As for non-sequiturs, your comment was on my post, not the other way round. The fact that you commented without bothering to actually read it first is what has caused your misunderstanding. Should I add a here? Probably not, as it only serves to try and mask foolishness.
