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The Hobbit

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by GroveRanger, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. jolls

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    You should be in the movie business with ideas like that,maybe disney should contact youfor advice about making the new star wars film.
     
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  2. GroveRanger

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    The books were great but not without some faults. The whole Tom Bombadil thing was thankfully dropped from the films and so was the rather dragged out boat trip down the River Anduin (I am such a nerd) but the films made Frodo and Sam a tad too homo for my liking. In the book it is Sam who grows a set of balls when Frodo gives up but the films made it look like he only did it to get a bit of hairy toe sucking action.

    Gollum was a master stroke in the films although some of the scenes had to be rushed and you can see the difference in quality in the CGI animation. With more time to spend on The Hobbit I can only imagine Gollum to be even more impressive.

    Where the film differed from the books was most obvious to me with Aragorn and Arwen, she only turns up at the end of the last book to get married and what made it onto the screen was a rough outline of their back story in an effort to inject some sort of romance into what otherwise would have been a very male dominated film. There was even a time during filming when Jackson thought about including Arwen in the battle of Helms Deep. He'd also filmed Aragorn fighting Sauron outside the Black Gates but had a change of mind and instead used CGI to make it a fight with a troll instead.

    Whereas I was concerned about cutting too much out of the books for The Lord of The Rings I am now fearful of The Hobbit being too padded out to stretch it into two films, let alone the three that are being mentioned. Can't wait to see the first one on a mahoosive IMAX 3-D screen. Geek over.
     
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  3. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    "Hairy toe sucking action"

    <laugh>
     
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  4. jolls

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    Fine post mr ranger,the most disapointing thing.for me.that they missed out of the movie was sharkeys end but it would of added another 20 mins to the movie.I first thought they were saving it for the extended edition but sadly the left it out all together.
    How they are going to get two films out of the hobbit i dont.know
     
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  5. GroveRanger

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    Christopher Lee was ultra-pissed at being killed off in Isengard and was doubly huffed that his death scene failed to make it to the original cinema release and only got added on as a bonus scene in the extended DVD. The Battle for the Shire at the end of the books makes for a great finish to the story but I think they wanted it to be a bit more uplifting (gay) and after the Gollum takes a lava bath with his 'precious' there is zero action in the film with endless scenes of Frodo staring knowingly at Sam in a "what happened on Mount Doom stays on Mount Doom" sort of thing.

    Still the best books I have ever read and the films are up there with my favourites too, here's hoping they don't over-homo The Hobbit.
     
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  6. YeOldeYozzwolde

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    I have to agree with George's verdict, the films were overtly camp for my liking, i did have the audio books read to me via an old reel to reel tape player.
    I Couldn't be ****ed to waste so much of my life reading such long winded twaddle, that just seems to go on and on and on, (i suppose a bit like a roll of Andrex).
    But as for the films, i'm surprised that they were not up for some gay and lesbian film award, all it needed was bumming hobbits and it would have been a cert. <ok>
     
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  7. jolls

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    What happens on mount doom stays on mount doom,classic

    YOU SHALL NOT PASS..(my favourite bit)
     
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  8. RAVENBLACK

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    Absolute horseshit for little boys.
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    Anyone who says he's read LoTR all the way to the end and did not like it is simply a liar. Who the **** reads a 1200 page book that they don't like all the way to the end?

    No one, that's who.

    If you managed to get through the first 5 or 6 chapters which are pretty slow, why would you carry on?

    The films were tremendous and I expect the Hobbit to be just as good so personally I cannot wait.
     
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  10. Bib Fortuna's Maw

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    I read the Hobbit in primary school then read LOTR when I was about 12/13 - blown away, loved them.

    Then I tried to re-read them as an adult and one of the sections in the Two Towers drags on for EVER.

    As good as the books are and as amazing as they seem when you're young, they're not very well written.

    Well-researched and the background work into the world they inhabit (particularly the languages and lineages stuff) is really impressive but Tolkein's ability to portray any emotive themes in his characters is pretty poor.

    I still read them all the way through but when I tried it again (when the films were out), I couldn't make it all the way through.
     
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    It's people who have clearly not read them who pretend to have done so that grind my gears, and ****s who compare them to Harry ****ing Snotter.

    I must admit, a Song of Fire and Ice is actually better and i never thought I would say that. George RR Martin is a fabulous writer. <ok>
     
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  12. RAVENBLACK

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    I did not read it to the end and the films I would not contemplate watching.

    Like a 70's episode of Doctor Who, absolute pish for boys who have never grown up.
     
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  13. GroveRanger

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    Nexus boy.
     
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