Whatever, you've still won **** all and you never will. Enjoy the rare occasion when you're doing better than us, it's all we've got to play for tbh, football is ruined. If success is measured by finishing in the top half of the Premiership I think I'd rather go down. At least we'd play some different teams
My thoughts on the premiership are well documented if you look through my posts I have made in the past. In fact I think I said that I prefer the Championship for the robust nature of the games and the fact there is a lot less diving. Unfortunately success these days is getting to and staying the the premier league. Things have changed a lot since Town won things and at my age I cannot remember anything you guys have won. Football is in a sorry state, especially in the premier league I hate seeing the players playing with so much fear that no one really gives it a good go anymore there is simply too much at stake. Fair enough if you think going down to League 1 is a good thing, it was for us it's just whether the current owner will still bank roll you if it happens.
I'm not going to dismiss out of hand Ipswich's acheivements in the past, if I supported Town I would probably be 'banging on about history'. Football really was a completely different game in those days though, a club the size of Ipswich or Norwich will never be able to win the top Division again. I can remember Town's success from years gone by, but then I am 50 ! Unfortunately for Town, these acheivements have no meaning or relevance to the young football fan. There are clubs who have a more illustrious history than Town but are now considered small town clubs of no significance to those other than their own supporters. For example: First Division Champions: 1923â24, 1924â25, 1925â26 Runners-up: 1926â27, 1927â28, 1933â34 Third-place: 1922â23, 1935â36, 1953â54 Second Division Champions: 1969â70 Runners-up: 1919â20, 1952â53 Third Division Promoted: 1982â83 Play-offs Winners: 1995, 2012 Play-offs Finalists: 2011 Play-offs Semi-finalists: 1992, 2002, 2006, 2010 Fourth Division Champions: 1979â80 Play-offs Winners: 2004 [edit] CupFA Cup Winners: 1922 Runners-up: 1920, 1928, 1930, 1938 Semi-finalists: 1929, 1939 Football League Cup Semi-finalists: 1968 FA Charity Shield Winners: 1922 Never played: 1924 (Newcastle United), 1925 (Sheffield United), 1926 (Bolton Wanderers). Anyone care to guess who this club is ??
and here's another one Division One Football League Division 1 Winners: 1920–21, 1959–60 Football League Division 1 Runners-Up: 1919–20, 1961–62 Championship/Division Two Football League Division 2 Winners: 1897–98, 1972–73 Football League Division 2 Runners-Up: 1912–13, 1946–47 Football League Championship Play Off Winners (Promoted): 2008–09 League One/Division Three Football League Division 3 Winners: 1981–82 Football League Division 2 Runners-Up: 1999–00 Football League Division 2 Play Off Winners (Promoted): 1993–94 League Two/Division Four Football League Division 4 Winners: 1991–92 One of a few teams to win the championship of all top four professional divisions since the current structure emerged in 1958 European Cup Quarter-Finalists: 1961 FA Cup Winners: 1914 Runners-Up: 1947, 1962 Third: 1973–74 League Cup Semi-Finalists: 2009 FA Community Shield Winners: 1973 Shared: 1960 Anglo-Scottish Cup Winners: 1978–79
My example was Burnley and the next one is PNE Football League First Division/Premier League Champions: 1888–89, 1889–90 Runners-up: 1890–91, 1891–92, 1892–93, 1905–06, 1952–53, 1957–58 Football League Second Division/Football League First Division Champions: 1903–04, 1912–13, 1950–51 Runners-up: 1914–15, 1933–34 Play-off Runners-up: 2001, 2005 Play-off Semi-finalists: 2006, 2009 Football League Third Division/Football League Second Division Champions: 1970–71, 1999–2000 Play-off Semi-finalists: 1989, 1999 Football League Fourth Division/Football League Third Division Champions: 1995–96 Runners-up: 1986–87 Play-off Runners-up: 1994 Play-off Semi-finalists: 1995 FA Cup Winners: 1889, 1938 Runners-up: 1888, 1922, 1937, 1954, 1964 Semi-finalists: 1887, 1893, 1921 Football League Cup Fourth Round: 1963, 1966, 1972, 1981, 2003 FA Charity Shield Runners-up: 1938 Football League War Cup Winners: 1941 So, the comment about past trophies being pretty meaningless is accurate. Means sod all and definitely does not make many clubs what they are today Huddersfield, Burnley & Preston have all won more than either of our clubs but they are all viewed as 'nothing' clubs these days.
This article would indicate nothing is as cut and dry as we are led to believe. I still think there is some chopping and changing to happen before we officially have someone in place http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich...340?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
In fact reports are that McCarthy's odds are on the slide and it is now a straight 2 horse race between McCarthy and Holloway. Apparently Mick has already been interviewed and Holloway being sounded out before any confirmation is made. I'm not sure if we have already interviewed Holloway or are planning too, it seems it's anyone's guess but it looks like McCarthy unless Holloway pulls off a binder in an interview (if it happens)
And whose honours would these be? They finished third once you know... Premier League (level 1) 3rd placed (1) (1992–93) Football League Second Division (Level 2) Winners (3): 1971–72, 1985–86, 2003–04 Runners-up (1): 2010–11 (and promoted to Level 1) Football League Third Division (Level 3) Winners (2): 1933–34, 2009–10 Runners-up (1): 1959–60 [edit]Cup FA Cup Semi-finals (3): 1959, 1989, 1992 League Cup Winners (2): 1962, 1985 Runners-up (2): 1973, 1975
It's bizarre to mention Preston! They were the first big club and contributed players like Tom Finney who everyone knows about. Everyone knows about Stanley Matthews at Stoke, everyone knows about Herbert Chapman's great Arsenal team of the 20s (some may not know it was he who did amazing things at Huddersfield). Everyone knows about Wolves' great team and Clough and Robson at Forest and Ipswich, and everyone knows that Norwich are what they are, none of the above.
I saw Robert Rosario score once if it makes you budgies feel better that you have no history of success x
Harry Redknapp said this this week: When asked directly about the Town job, he said: “Ipswich is a good club – I have not been offered the job at Ipswich. “Teams (like Ipswich and Blackburn) have won championships in my lifetime, they (Ipswich) had great days under Sir Alf Ramsey, Sir Bobby Robson and George Burley. Let's look at what you're actually saying: No achievements by any club are relevant because they will soon be in the past. Even if they are in your lifetime and you actually experienced them, they are still not relevant. The only relevance in football is what is happening right now. But that will soon be irrelevant. It just doesn't make sense boys.
Do you think a player/manager would choose Ipswich over another club because of your history? I guarantee that any player/manager would choose, let's say Brighton over you now.
I'm not saying it's not relevant? It just didn't happen in my lifetime so for ME it is not relevant. In the same way if NCFC had won anything years ago it would also not be relevant to me as I would not have experienced it and have any memories attached to it. It's hard to take for you guys but ITFC have been struggling for quite a few years now under Marcus Evans and there has been nothing to smile about for quite a few years now. At the moment at least, history is all you have to look back on for any feel good factor which is related to ITFC. If bringing up and living off past achievements makes you feel better about your club I totally understand as ITFC have spent many years in the doldrums now and everyone needs something to cling onto in the hard times.
