Some 'world's best' goalkeeping rankings

http://fourfourtwo.com/lists/thefft100toptengoalkeepers.aspx
http://worldsoccer.about.com/od/inte...oalkeepers.htm
http://ministryofglove.wordpress.com...eper-rankings/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...otball/page/14

Oh look they all rate Lloris in the world's top ten, they must be 'naive' and 'full of garbage' then, NOT

etc

EDIT - Apparently there's trouble at links,

here's the relevant bit from World Soccer

9. Hugo Lloris (France & Tottenham Hotspur)


Lloris looks to have a promising career ahead of him for club and country. Boasting a long reach and superb reflexes, France captain Lloris is capable of keeping strikers at bay when his team are firmly under the cosh. Previously at Nice and Lyon, he was signed by Tottenham in August 2012 as they looked for a long-term option between the posts. Must improve his decision making.

and from Shaka Hislop's Ministry of Glove

5. Hugo Lloris (Lyon and France)
It’s been another difficult season for Lyon, but Lloris comes out of it with big credit. Agile, ultra-reliable and still young, I’m a big fan and there’s more to come. Every time summer rolls around, the speculation liking him with a move somewhere seems as common as the smell of barbecues. Spurs are reportedly looking at him as a replacement for Brad Friedel and he’d be a great addition to the Premier League. Wherever he heads, I’m sure he’s destined to be an even bigger star than he is now.

and from Bleacher Report

8. Hugo Lloris

France and Lyon goalkeeper Hugo Lloris is perhaps the player who could storm up this ranking chart over the next few years.

The 25-year-old is so far advanced for his age that he is sure to represent his country for the foreseeable future.

One to watch.

 

Is it me or do the last three links not work?

 

HI SJW - no, you're right - it's strange they worked worked earlier when I tested them. I copied them from a post on another site where the Lloris debate rages even more fiercely than on here.

I'll check them out. In the meantime, have added the Lloris bits from the links. They work from the other site I copied them from.

 

I'm not entirely sure what you think the problem is that you think people have with Hugo Loris. I have seen no-one on here say that he's a crap goalkeeper and he should not have been signed. The only thing I've read that is anywhere near this position is people saying that there could be/is a valid argument for bedding him in slowly as AVB is doing. This is what I think. How many high-profile expensive keepers have we seen flop in this country (though some recover)?

Point is that your evidence of Hugo's greatness (which is sufficiently huge that adjusting to a new league/style/country/style of play will not be a problem) only ever relies on his reputation - on lists created by bloggers and the journalists who do a day's work here and there for magazines like 442 jotting down meaningless lists to fill the pages (and web). Or how you've read a couple of people say "world class" (whatever that means) in relation to him. Or how he's the captain of a very poor France side who couldn't beat a very poor England side in Euro 2012 and were recently beaten by Japan.

And at the same time you've started attacking Friedel as if it's his fault, being ridiculously critical of a player who, at the very least, gives a decent performance every time it's asked.

Now as for how excellent it is to scour the internet to find the written outpuit of bored, equally-as-uninformed-as-any-of-us bloggers who insist on writing lists: here is what a quick google found when I searched for "Best goalkeeper Europe 2008" got me:

http://www.rankopedia.com/Best-Goalkeeper-in-Europe-(2008)/Step1/5824/.htm

Note that this one has Lehman at 10, Almunia at 13, Dudek at 16, FLAPPYHANDSKI at 17 (that's right - written evidence that Fabianski was once definitely, definitely the 17th best footballer in his position in the entire continent).

http://www.footy-boots.com/top-ten-goalkeepers-playing-in-europe-5780/

This one has David James as number ten and who's that at number seven? Why it's that hot property who all of Europe were trying to sign - Huerelho Gomes! (Brad at five, by the way).

Couple of other pages I found very easily mentioned names like Craig Gordon, Scott Carson...

Oh - and here's a youtube video entitled "Top 10 Best Goalkeepers Official List " so that should be very authoritative on this subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTk7VoC1kkg

Yep - there's Craig Gordon again. It certainly was a big transfer fee...

Look - I really hope Loris is class. I think he probably is. But I can see the logic of easing him in slowly and at the same time it's not like we have an urgent need for change. I think you are somewhat over-simplifying this whole thing, getting attached to certain ideas about what other people are saying and getting overly-wedded to this topic.

Yes - it's a bit weird that Loris is not playing by now. But you've been spouting stuff about him/his not playing from the outset. To the point of wondering how you can continue to support the club due to his not being played (!)

Basically the lists above mean nothing, yes he's probably a good keeper but none of us know for sure. He will be Spurs' regular keeper very soon. Stop being so weird about it.

 

When Gomes joined us, he was world number three according to FIFA rankings.

 

Hi CN, cheers for info, I didn't know that. I knew he was highly rated, but didn't know he had such a high rating. For a while Gomes was brilliant for us, absolutely key to us making the CL for our one and only time so far. I'll never forget his wonder game against Arsenal, one of the greatest displays of goalkeeping by a Spurs player I've witnessed in my 50+ years of following the team.

Such a shame what happened to him afterwards.

I've been trying to find the FIFA rankings for Lloris, do you know where I can find them?

I think Hugo's ranked really high on FIFA 13, not that I play these games, but have read it somewhere. But are they reflective of actual FIFA rankings?

I think on FIFA 13, Lloris is ranked highest of all our players, may be wrong.

 

yeah,he was rushed in,and if we do the same with Lloris,instead of gradually bringing him in,he might end up like Gomes

 

You have to right-click each link in turn and choose an option like "Copy link location" or "Copy shortcut/hyperlink/etc". You can't select all the text and copy, as most forums shorten the text, meaning the links don't work when pasted here.


Who are you trying to convince about our goalkeeper choice?

 

What a boring thread!...

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Lloris is higher ranked than a 40yr old...oh good...moving on now!

Well said lenny!

 

Cheers for info Inda - you live and learn.

I'm trying to convince anyone who thinks Lloris shouldn't have started against Saints or shouldn't start v Wigan. I'm also just giving some general evidence in favour of Lloris for presumably the vast majority of Spurs fans who want Lloris to start. And if there's isn't a vast majority, then there should be, and hopefully this evidence will help show the naysayers the way forward.

I'm also celebrating the fact we've got such a wonderful player in our midst, along with Bale the two most highly ranked players in the world football. Shame AVB only seems to favour one of them.

I'm also pointing out that the person who called me 'naive' for saying Lloris was world class was the one who was in fact spouting 'garbage', something else he accused me of, re the keeper debate.

I chucked in a as he's fond of aiming those at me as well

 

If you're going to continue with this personal battle of wits, you need to man-up a bit, grow some balls and let those you are trying to convince have the right of reply to your inane drivel, instead of putting them on your ignore list.

For those who are baffled by your 'naive' references, it was myself who used this word. I used in the context of saying it was 'naive' of GH10 to call Lloris 'the worlds number one keeper' as he originally did.

Unfortunately for you GH10, it doesn't matter one jot what second rate magazines blogs etc say, the man whose opinions matter, AVB, does not seem to agree with you at this momsnt in time.

I took the trouble to release some inside info on here as to the thinking behind the coaching staffs logic in playing Lloris in the Aston Villa game, but as usual with you, it didn't suit your weird obsession with this matter so you ignored it and carried on with your personal and boring crusade.

Here's another bit of inside info for you to chew over your breakfast, we had a club representative watching Lloris play for France in both recent Internationals. Despite you claiming he put in a 'world class performance' against Spain, the report from someone with far more insight into goalkeeping than you will everhave, was nowhere near as complimenatry. His analysis of Lloris's performance in the earlier game against Japan was even less favourable.

You are entitled to your views, but to ram down their our throat is really getting too much now. I suspect your credibilty as been reduced anyway aftyer your unbelievable outburst at the weekend saying you were finding it difficult to support the club now.

Give it a rest !!

 

For the record I'm pretty sure that Lloris is our best player on FIFA 13, however using that game as the basis for a real-life comparison of players is never a good idea!

 

Was reading the FFT article and was close to saying I'm very surprised they ranked Valdes number 1 and Buffon and Casillas at 9 and 10 before noticing the "alphabetical order" part

Anyway, good to see Lloris is recognised up there with the best! Here's hoping he's in between the sticks for the Wigan game.

For the first time on Sunday, I felt Brad had an awful game. I feel he's made a few mistakes this season already such as not claiming crosses which've lead to goals and I thought he looked incredibly slow in terms of his reactions against Chelsea but against Soton, it was close to being labelled a typical "Gomes-esque" display. Twice he was nowhere near crosses, one which somehow the Japanase lad for Soton ended up heading wide (or think it may have taken a little deflection, still shoud've buried it) and his passing/ kicking out was woeful too, it was just a shaky performance overall, the first I think I've ever seen from Brad in his Spurs career so far. Perhaps he now feels the pressure and the need to perform as Lloris is banging on the door to come in? Maybe he could've been told that Lloris will be starting at Wigan? Or it could've just been a one off, the guy was probably due a torrid display seeing as he's been great for most of his time since joining us last summer.

Really would like to see Lloris start in the league now though, from what I've seen of him I've been really impressed bar the stupid throw against Villa which COULD have cost us massively. That aside, his reactions has been brilliant, really quick off his line which I think we need, especially as AVB likes the defence to be involved with play so naturally there'll be gaps at times where the keeper will need to come out and clear if a defender(s) is too far forward.

We'll get an idea of who may start against Wigan when the team for Norwich is announced tomorrow night. If Brad or Carlo start then to me, that'd signal Lloris will play in the league.

 

Hi TH, yep, I wouldn't dream of doing that, but glad you confirm that is the case about Lloris' very high ranking, (again).

I just wonder if the game rankings are based on official FIFA rankings, because I've been looking to see if there any for keepers, and haven't found them yet. But CN says Gomes was No. 3 in said list.

 

Well said SOS. It was fascinating to see that Brad did try to come off his line more against Soton, unfortunately he showed why he tends to stick on the line. The difficult cross that he tried for, he completely messed up, which led to their goal, indeed the Soton player should have headed it in before the corner.

He simply isn't anywhere near as good as Lloris and I'm totally baffled as to why AVB continues to shun the captain of France.

It's surely going to lead to trouble, and if we lose Lloris because of this, or inded he gets demoralised and loses his form, it will be a disgrace.

The French can't believe what's happening to their captain, and I bet Hugo can't either.

 

No pm's SC??

 

We get it, you think Lloris should be our number 1.

No excuse for boring us all with comments and threads about his ratings/reputation/international career etc.

Lloris will be our number 1 soon, in the meantime chill out and enjoy the season.