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A little moan on Bale, though am I being harsh?

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Dier Hard, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Sounds like my memories of the Chelsea game!
     
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  2. The Mighty Thor

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    Drogs,I thought he should have played,I'm not vilifying him at all. He has a baby girl and I'm chuffed for him but as has been posted there was nothing he could do there. He'd have had a beautiful baby girl whether he'd been there or not. The very best to mum,dad and daughter. He made the decision and to me it's forgotten and I'll be cheering him on to score on Thursday with NO grudges held.
     
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  3. totsfan

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    don't agree,my Daughhter is 16 now,and i still remember the whole thing cleary,an incredeble experience to see anew life begin
     
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  4. notsosmartspur

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    When its your first especially at a young age, its just a case of being there, do something??? there's hospital staff that get paid for that! The first time is as much a worry, as a time of excitement, someone said you should only be let off for bereavement of 'a' family member. Without wanting to sound morbid, worse case scenario is, childbirth can result in losing two! Its a tense time, and he was right to go. I don't agree with anyone suggesting he could switch off and play football, he's a human being, not a robot.
     
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  5. CockneySpur

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    why was it our biggest league game of the season? that is massively subjective on your part. If it had been a game against Reading, would it have been okay that he went then? Let's just say it was and we lost to Reading - same result, three points dropped!!!

    So because he gets paid millions to entertain us, then you feel that he is 'owned' by us as we pay his wages???

    It does not matter that you and Thor don't feel he could do much by being at his wife's side when she was in labour - he is a human being and quite frankly I would hardly think he would have been an asset had he have played knowing what was happening in his personal life.

    He had every right to do what he did, he is contracted to play for Spurs, Spurs do NOT own him - in the same way that you or I are NOT owned by our employers. I know I could go to my boss with an issue in my personal life like that of GB's and the first thing he will say to me is that I should be there - its called compassion!!!
     
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  6. The Mighty Thor

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    It's his girlfriend and not his wife Cockney.
     
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  7. CockneySpur

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    pah, okay - so I got that wrong, it's still GB's first child
     
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  8. The Mighty Thor

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    Not being his wife though I think makes a difference. You can argue the legal ins and outs but as it's his girlfriend I thought Spurs were very generous to him. Anyway it's done now and you can have your opinion of me but I won't change my mind anymore than you will change yours and I wouldn't even try to change your mind. Hey Cockney let's look forward to Thursday ok.
     
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  9. notsosmartspur

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    A very strange and archaic way of looking at things imo TMT, what difference does a piece of paper make? Many people stay together without marrying, I actually can't believe you're suggesting that makes a relationship less significant. Sorry, but that is a very limp argument you have there.
     
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  10. CockneySpur

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    I agree wholeheartedly - and its still GB's first child :)

    we do agree on something though TMT, role on Thursday and hopefully back to winning ways :)
     
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  11. The Mighty Thor

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    I've put my argument forward notso and I've nothing more to add. I feel that boyfriend/girlfriend does make the relationship weaker than husband/wife.
     
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  12. Style

    Style 'where is the love'

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    Marriage is no measure of how much one person loves another!

    Not sure how anyone could be mad at a person for not turning up to there job whilst their partner is in labour with their first born, somethings are more important.
     
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  13. bigsmithy9

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    You've got to have a strong stomach to watch a baby entering this world.I saw one in a movie when I was fifteen and nearly passed out.
    It could put dad off sex for very long,long time.........
    So,maybe,Bale might not want to see it again.....but then by then he will probably be gone.....like Modric!
     
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  14. bigsmithy9

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    I wonder what fans will think if,at the end of the season we are 3 points sho
     
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  15. bigsmithy9

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    I wonder what fans will think at the end of the season if we are 3 points short of Chelsea at the top?
    Ok.But it's a thought!
     
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  16. lennypops

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    How much someone is paid is not relevant to how they should be treated as a person. Nowadays fathers want to be there at births (or their partners want them there, or both). This is just a simple social fact and "being strong" has nothing to do with it.

    Yes I could imagine a society working perfectly well whereby the father is not expected to be at the birth but our society, right now, is not like that. Footballers are people and part of a larger society first and foremost before they pull a pair of football boots on for a couple of hours - this should always be borne in mind. (There's some relevance here to the current racism stuff but there's a separate topic for you).

    I appreciate that the thought "Hang on - why does he have to be there?" is a fine one to have, though. It's a bit of an unquestioned truism of modern life that should be questioned (as all truisms should).
     
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  17. The Mighty Thor

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    Style,I'm not mad that he didn't play,I just felt that he should have done but it's history and I hope he scores against Maribor. Boyfriend/girlfriend relationships split up much quicker than husband/wife relationships and what if he splits with his girlfriend? He finds another and puts her up the duff and so he will want to miss another match because she's pregnant and not married. If it happens again I think that the club should say no even if it is the same girlfriend.
    I respect his decision and hold NOTHING against him and am looking forward to watching him play again. He should be cock-a-hoop that he's a daddy and run rings around the Maribor defence. People work better when they're happy. Ok,no grudges held and it's history.My final word on it.
     
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  18. SpursDisciple

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    Enjoying the discussion on the merits of marriage, but does anyone know where the football forum went?
     
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  19. totsfan

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    how about closing this thread now, mods?
     
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  20. angelordevil

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    When starting the thread on the Chelsea board it wasn't my intention to 'make an issue' of it it was to find out what Chelsea supporters thought and if you think it was for any other reason than that you are mistaken.
     
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