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Diving gits...... artists or assholes?

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by moreinjuredthanowen, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>
     
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  2. Terror ball

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    Jim fixed it for Brendan to become Liverpool manager
     
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  3. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Liverpool FC's money fixed it for Swansea not to go out of business many years ago.<whistle>
     
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  4. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    Jim fixed it for fergie to get a knighthood <ok>

    Actually wait a minute thats unlikely...he was from Leeds wasn't he??? Where's widow twanky gone??? Need to mention that to him next time he slithers in <ok>
     
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    If you'd bothered to read the thread you'd have noticed that a lot of us are dismayed at Suarez' diving antics, however if you come out with the ****e you've just spouted above you're going to get called for the stupid get you obviously are.
     
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  7. Stereo

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    First off what is a 'get' ?
    Secondly there are a few who agree but there are others like the Pistolero bloke who seem to actually defend his behaviour and then hurl abuse at anyone who dares question that belief. I only highlighted that the case of diving with regards to Suarez is different due to opposing fans huge dislike of him.
    Thirdly, suck my balls.
     
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  8. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    There are others like "the Pistolero bloke" who seem to actually defend his behaviour??

    If you now go back and actually read the thread you'll realise just what a tit you've just made of yourself <ok>
     
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  9. BringBackfootie

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    He dived FFS. I think he should get better at it, why, everyone else is doing it and getting penalties.
    There is gamesmanship in EVERY fookin sport but footballers and Suarez are evil. I am laughing at the orality of lying and dishonest football fans, hypocrites

    It aint up to you or any other fan to decide if Suarez should stop or practice the technique, I've read enough of Liverpool fans saying he should this or that. He's getting nailed for fk all and has been for months and wouldn't be overly shocked if he and his family, remember he's got one of those? who are reading all of this nonsense daily or not reading but you get me, if he decides it aint worth it, which I wouldn't blame him for, our loss.

    I understand your noble standpoint on the matter, it is just not practical in this modern game

    The guy is entertaining to watch and for me it is no less diminished if we dont win, which is more than I can say for some on here, and no I don't mean you <ok>
     
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  10. Lucaaas

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    Nail on the head as usual from the Times.
     
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  11. sweet fa

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    I find the whole 'diving' debate quite perplexing for many reasons:

    1. it is disproportionately difficult for a player to get a free kick/penalty if they DONT fall over. Ref's have to take some criticism from this. They dont award free kicsk to players who stay on their feet even when they have clearly been impeded and clearly havent gained an advantage. This can only increase the incentive for a player to dive.

    2. There are FAR, FAR worse things in the game of football than diving. Calling diving the cancer of football (Jim Boyce) is absolutely outrageous. I would class toilet mouthed abuse at refs and opponents, fights between managers on the dugout, 2 footed lunges ending players' careers and managers and players alike bullying and browbeating referees at every turn all as far more detremental to the modern game and its reutation than diving.

    3. 'diving' and simulation are 2 different things with different implications. Due to point 1 I am hesitant to use the word 'diving' in reference to a player falling over to draw the ref's attention to a foul. Yes, sometimes it wasnt a foul, I am aware of this, but suggesting we give out retrospective bans for 'diving' is totally impractical and cannot work - How do you prove (prove being the objective word) how much contact is needed to bring a player down? More to the point, how do you prove that contact is necessary to bring a player down? (sometimes the presence of a player in your way disrupts your balance enough to bring you down?) I am aware that in exceptional cases it is obvious but rules have to be black and white and free for universal application.

    Simulation, however, by which I mean delieberately conning the ref into believing you have been physically assaulted (going down holding your face when you havent been touched), rolloing round on the floor 7 times, I dont need to elaborate you know what I mean, should be punished and seriously. This is a deliberate attack on another professional rather than an attempt to gain advantage for your team. To me there is a subtle, but none the less clear, difference.

    Im not saying diving isnt an irritant. Nor am I saying that it is a good part of our game. But we should sort our house out generally before worrying too much about it.
     
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  12. UnitedinRedmk III

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    As much as I cant stand that rat-boy you have up front for you I have to say... there is far worse than him playing week in week out for other top clubs. If they are going to throw bans around for simulation then Barcelona and Real Madrid wouldn't be able to field 11 players this time next month lol

    Dani Alves and Sergio Busquests are probably the worst divers I have seen in world football.
     
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    Firstly: A term of endearment.
    Secondly: Get your facts right.
    Thirdly: No thanks, I'd rather suck my own.
     
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  14. BCR

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    Carlos Busquets? Who the **** is that? <laugh>
     
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  15. UnitedinRedmk III

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    The old goal keeper for Barcelona... dived all the time :)
     
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  16. luvgonzo

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    I can do number 3, very flexible person.
     
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  17. saintanton

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    Well, in some ways.....
     
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  18. BCR

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    Still doesn't make it right.
     
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    don,know much about football do you,he's not a keeper he's a Barca & Spain Midfielder!
     
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  20. Krome

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    Bit unfair on the current Arsenal team there, think you're juding them on past players. Utd are surely the worst at the moment?
     
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