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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by alexb, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. Noblelox

    Noblelox Well-Known Member

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    Looking at it, he will successfully overturn that, he doesn't put his weight down, and is moving, and had nowhere else to put his foot, other than kicking Suarez in the face. So while he may of meant it, I can see him arguing a scenario that will vindicate him of malice.
     
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  2. Noblelox

    Noblelox Well-Known Member

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    Nothing, after the mistreatment he got against Norwich, he is still owed. Nothing was done against Barnett for his karate chop on Suarez's neck.
     
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  3. TheAmericanConnection

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    Cheers Fella, you'll get no stick off me if there is no kick, I never take reports on face value but will look out for it later.

    Regarding Suarez I really think he has got a lot better that's why the dive has been mainly critisised by us today, maybe we had started to think you can knock all the edges off a rough diamond within a season, but I think generally from what I have seen he is going the right way. That elbow on the head at Norwich sort of lead me to believe he was becoming more phlegmatic, just sat there with a wry smile on his face despite the defender going through the usual histrionics and the ref doing nowt. Time will tell but as you mentioned, Brilliant player, just not sure he will be allowed to move on from his reputation and today didn't help.
     
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  4. Pottermouth 328

    Pottermouth 328 Well-Known Member

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    IF that comment was meant for me personally I won't even bother with a response.

    You have a nice way with words <doh> And since WHEN have I tried to defend HUTH? Read before putting the brain into gear.
     
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  5. suarezlfc

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    The FA should ban both of them, but Huth is the most likely to be banned of the two.

    And the reason is that I can't recall anyone being retrospectively banned for a dive that went unpunished in the game. They should be punished, but they never are.

    Although, saying that, it wouldn't surprise me if Suarez was made their first example.

    Ivanovic (also against Stoke, and on two occasions) springs to mind. That guy is seemingly made of teflon.
     
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  6. Pulis should be quiet. If Suarez got banned for that, Stoke wouldn't have a team at all season considering what they get up to! <doh>
     
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  7. RobofLeeds

    RobofLeeds New Member

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    Nice try Dirty, to deflect the focus.

    The posts on here are correctly identifying Saurez is a cheat, little, or no mention of his origin.

    There have been divers in the English game for years. Even ol' KKK used to get a bit effeminate in the box ( Unless he's a foreigner too Dirty ? )
     
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  8. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Everyone of them a cheat or hatchetman.
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  9. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    No deflection needed. Read my specific posts on the incident. I condemned the dive utterly & unequivocally. If you'd even read my post you quoted you would have also read "cheating is cheating" can't get simpler than that.

    My other points were not deflection but a note that the media of this country focuses its attention on one form of cheating: diving. Take the online Telegraph report tonight: it has the GIF of Suarez diving Pulis' reaction & outrage, makes a spare mention of the "physical nature" of Stokes play but no mention of the Huth stamp & no accompanying GIF. I guarantee that will be replicated across tomorrow's papers.

    Yes it has been here for years but go ask people, particularly in the media to name divers past & present : they would have said Klinsman, Ronaldo, Drogba Suarez,

    Not Gerrard, Rooney, Bale, and if they do, it's along the lines of its part of the game now.

    As for your usual "KKK/ racist nonsense" do you really want to talk about racists in society? Tell me what area of the country nationally tops the voting figures for the BNP. What areas voting percentage for the BNP has been increasing for the last 20 years? I'd concentrate on kicking racism out of Leeds before you put all your efforts into a silly footballer. Fairly sure it won't be Suarez putting the brick through the poor Pakistanis window or beating up some poor black kid because they walked home at the wrong time....ill even guarantee that if he can vote, Suarez x wouldn't be where between 8-10% of your neighbours put it....
     
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  10. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    Oh & your current neighbourhood appears to be taking a fair liking to the BNP as well according to the figures, go on Rob; out and fight racism at your front door.
     
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  11. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Frankly Stoke leave themselves open to opposition players diving. If they werent so intent on kicking seven shades of **** out of opposing teams (and with refs going lightly on them) and actually tried to play football, then opposing players wouldnt have the opportunity or feel the need to dive in order to win fouls.

    Ever noticed that Stoke have more 'dives' against them, mainly cause after a player has been repeatedly assaulted and got bugger all, they start going down easy to avoid the pain that would've followed straight after
     
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  12. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    why do people get this irate with each other over players when its clealry the REFEREE IN BOTH CASES who bottled it. Huth didn't even need to touch suarez but he went for it and got completely away with it, he then got away with several more fouls unitl finally he commits a professional foul for which he finally gets yellow? All the ref wanted was to get out of the game without a red or a bad pen....simple.

    Then the same ref sees suarez swandive and doesn't wave a card simply cos the things been talked about i nthe press and he deosn't want to be the one to go do it... again bottler.

    Lee mason is the one to have an arguement about not either player who after all were only doing what they do and get paid to do.
     
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  13. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    Exactly MITO: its why this retrospective nonsense is a cop out: Ref can just "not see" anything controversial in the match knowing the anonymous panel can do the dirty work later.

    Now if this Ref says he didn't see either incident he should be demoted. If he saw both incidents & thought neither warranted action; he should be demoted. Simple: refs are bloody paid to do their jobs so make them bloody do it!
     
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  14. Pottermouth 328

    Pottermouth 328 Well-Known Member

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    This exactly <ok> And I'm speaking as a Stoke fan. Could not a put it better than that. Well said.
     
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  15. I actually agree that players should be banned for blatant diving like Suarez and Bale did yesterday. Diving irritates me greatly and if players were to miss two or three games as a result then the managers would soon stop their players from doing it!

    However, Pulis is a prick in this instance because he is purely trying to have a dig at Suarez rather than diving in general. Plus, he really needs to have a look at him self and his players behaviour before having a go at others <doh>

    Edit: and has MITO said above (and I said several times yesterday), the referees should take more authority with these incidents. Stoke shouldn't be allowed to get away with more because they have a reputation for being physical, I couldn't give a **** if they ended a game with eight men every week, that is they way they choose to play!

    Same goes for Suarez, Bale, Nani etc when it comes to diving. If it is 100% clear it was a dive (daylight between two players showing there was zero contact) then ban them for two or three games! (this would be the FA (full of confidence there <doh>))
     
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  16. Jimmy Case's Bootlaces

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    Completely agree. Known as 'dirty, dirty Leeds' for a reason.
     
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  17. Milk Milk

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    Gerrez has it about right. Refs should do more against teams where violent offences are the norm... not less.

    If Stoke choose to do calculated premeditated cheating then they should be made to pay a price for it.

    I'm just glad no one got injured by that disgusting display of anti football.

    Suarez absolutely should be given a yellow card every time he dives. Stoke players should be shown a yellow or ref every time they commit a violent premeditated foul... yes even if they end up getting players frequently sent off.


    Regarding Suarez the diving puzzles me... he never gets away with it so why does he keep trying. As good a football player as he is... he sucks at diving.

    Ronaldo, Drogba, Car rick, Valencia, Robben... now those are players who know how to dive and make it look real.... not really a surprise they do it... they're good at it. Even our own Stevie G can put in an effective display when he puts his heart in it.



    I do hate diving but its really not as bad as potentially giving someone an injury or going out on the field with the intention of bruising someone up.
     
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