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Loach, Cresswell, Drury are they good enough??

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by Spanish, Oct 6, 2012.

  1. Spanish

    Spanish Well-Known Member

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    Really? Lets be honest here guys they are just not good enough, can't believe Jewell can't see it!!
    Some of us on here thought that Loach was a poor signing and are being proved right but some thought he would be great because he was a Town fan, FFS!!! Cressy should have been sold if the rumours of Villa bids were right, looks poor to me but maybe the lack of competion could be a factor. Drury instead of the apparently impressive N'daw, is Jewell Fecking serious?
    I honestly can't believe that Evans is backing this clown, someone is having a serious laugh at our expense and i for one don't find it funny!!
    What is going on? Please let the fans start seriously protesting!!
    JEWELL OUT!!











    OH AND TAKE THAT CL!NT CLEGG WITH YOU!!
     
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  2. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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  3. San Diego

    San Diego Sir Mediator Forum Moderator

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    You can say that about most of the team though.
     
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  4. Hoppersblue10

    Hoppersblue10 Well-Known Member

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    Loach - bit unfair on him, he is being made the scapegoat for todays result, 1st goal was 100% his fault but 2nd, nobody is looking at Drury who gave the ball away cheaply whilst we were camped on the edge of their box 20-30 seconds later game over, also Cressy is also at fault for not tracking his man for the cross..


    Cressy & Drury are both looking well out of their depth at this level, lost count of the number stray passes from Drury again today, Cressy is for me lacking defensively & his crosses are not what they should be....
     
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  5. Roystonblue

    Roystonblue Well-Known Member

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    Problem with Cresswell is that he believes his own press & now thinks he is too good for ITFC. He needs to realise that he is still young & has much to learn.
    Goalkeeper - Obviously we had to bring someone in over the summer (Lee-Barrett was the only keeper on the books) & PJ did state it was his no 1 priority. Was Loach his 1st choice? but even if he was, who else could we have got for the wages we are willing to pay. i know we were linked with a lot of players over the summer but I think Sorenson may have been one. Would be great in this div but I'm guessing wages were the reason we didn't get him
     
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  6. Mike_Holmes1990

    Mike_Holmes1990 Well-Known Member

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    Loach - Was to blame for the defeat today. Whatever happened in the build up he should have easily got hold of both those balls. But i thought his general play before that first mistake had nothing to be overly critical of and he made some fantastic stops. I think hes good enough, if we can find better than great but for know im happy to see Loach on the team sheet.

    Cresswell - Unsure whats happened to him, could be a mixture of getting his head turned, over-confidence, lack of confidence, lack of competition. Last season showed he has the ability, the coaches just arnt getting it out of him.

    Drury - I'm unsure, obviously there is better out there in the championship, and at the end of last season his partner ship with Hyam was one everyone was hailing so again i think he has the ability

    I think all of them as with the rest of the squad aren't firing on all cylinders at all, and everyone is right to point at the coaching.

    about NDaw, he should have been on the bench, i accept his role is for away games but to shore the game up he would have been a better choice than Luongo
     
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  7. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't overly convinced by the Loach signing this summer but I have to say I have been fairly impressed with him apart from yesterday.

    Cresswell I also thought was decent yesterday but yes perhaps could do with some competition, he's still a good player.

    As for Drury, I like him but yesterday he did seem off the boil, he certainly needs to be more consistent with his passing. He either plays a really good pass or looses the ball!!
     
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  8. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Cresswell is not up to this standard of football and anyone with half a brain cell would have spotted that from last season! Oh but did we do... Vote him as bloody player of the season! This tells you all you need to know about the state this club is in! <ok>
     
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  9. DUNDEE BLUE

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    Dont know if anybody else at the game yesterday thought this but for what its worth i thought we were defeated yesterday because the team got the pace wrong and in the end were just knackered you could see drury especially he was ****ed .

    we put 100 % in far too early whereas cardiff seemed to get the pace right for the full 90 mins . i think it should be like long distance running . 100% is good if you capitalise on your chances early on . My take on it anyway . Still thought the substitutions were **** tho .

    thoughts
     
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  10. Mike_Holmes1990

    Mike_Holmes1990 Well-Known Member

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    I can see your point Dundee but i think the pace was fine. At home, against a top side and in our current position, you cant expect Cardiff to let us move through the gears later in the game. Though like you said, what is seriously lacking is taking of the chances; we could, and should have been a number of goals up. The confidence wouldnt have drained away quite so dramatically meaning the subs wouldn't have to force the issue quite so much as they come on to replace the tiring players. i.e the subs could play with the same freedom that we played with in the first half.
     
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  11. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    Nah it's not individuals. When players leave they go on to do well. Cresswell is a good young talent. If he had been in the side 15 years ago he'd have Premier League potential. ITFC has not been a good place for a youngster to learn their trade for the last five years.
     
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  12. itfcptc

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    Yeah I thought that. DJ Campbell and Wellens despite playing well were definitely flaking by the end!! You could also see Drury and JET were knackered by the end!! I really don't know who he should have taken off, both Wellens and Drury looked like they were struggling!!

    Carlos Edwards however was pheunominal. At 34 he was still running the full length of the pitch in the 90th minute quicker than anyone else on the pitch, unbelievable!!!

    I'd say we still kept a decent shape without the ball, we were just sloppy with the ball in midfield. And it was 2 lapses in concentration which cost us as per usual in the end!!
     
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  13. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    Or the fickleness of fans....
     
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  14. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Hey Weighty I said last season that he wasn't up to it and unfortunately I have been proven right! One good game at Barnsley when he put in a few decent crosses doesn't make him a decent player. He is all over the place defensively and he proved it again for Cardiff's second goal when he didn't go with the runner. Its pretty basic stuff....
     
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  15. Westlake33

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    Cresswell - he cannot defend. Patently obvious he isn't a left back. I never rated him from word go. Zero positional sense too, constantly caught out defensively. I don't trust him in a 1 v 1 battle. I'd like to see him given a go on the left wing......

    Loach - Can't really comment, however, he only cost £150,000 so that tells it's own story. Have to see what he's like over time.

    Drury - Not the greatest player of all time, however, consider a few things here.

    1- He's better than Leadbitter
    2- Wages won't be high
    3- Versatile.
    4- He came from the conference, so lets not expect him to be the answer.

    I like him as a squad player certainly. A regular starter ? No.
     
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  16. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    The best players we have ie that have the best technical qualities are mostly players that we don't own! The only Town player that I really rate is Edwards and he has been played out of position for the last 2 and half years! This tells you how **** we really are!
     
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  17. Hoppersblue10

    Hoppersblue10 Well-Known Member

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    Warky....I am sure in the past you have been one of his biggest critics, when some of us always felt he was as good a right back in this division, now you say he is the one Town player you rate (i take on board you say he is playing out of position IYO)...you might need to explain that one in a bit more detail...!
     
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  18. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    As a right back Hoppers yes I have criticised him but at the end of the day that isn't his fault! He is a bloody good Right Winger!
     
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  19. Hoppersblue10

    Hoppersblue10 Well-Known Member

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    He has turned out to be a half decent RB as well Warky.....go on admit it, you know you wanna...!
     
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  20. Westlake33

    Westlake33 Well-Known Member

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    haha, yes Warky, admit it!!!!

    I was never convinced by Edwards on the right wing, I think he's FAR better travelling from deep!
     
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