If by that he means the protesting fans in the South Stand, that's a disgrace. If not, fair enough, the rest of the ground were silent and distracted by their own shyness from supporting the team, but he should have made himself clearer if that was the implication. **** off with that Warnock, we're the fans and we'll support our CLUB in the way we deem necessary. Used to this **** from club hacks like Michael Brown who were doubtless forced to say it by Dewsy, but Warnock should be more tactful. He says we're the reason he's still in the job, well get behind US then.
The atmposphere v Hull was horrendous clapping players off when they got subbed and moaning Not singing all game. But the players have got to make us get behind them and they certainly didn't. Warnock has sung the fans praises a lot more than any of the other managers used to.
Congratulations you win the prize for knob of the week. When you ****ers take your infantile and pointless campaign to the lengths of not supporting the team then you deserve all you get.
In what way are protesting Bates and supporting the team mutually exclusive? The worst and most commonly used excuse by Bates apologists, and I would certainly say Jerel has some stiff competition for "knob of the week" with your "infantile and pointless campaign" comment. And I agree, it was a ****ing stupid thing for Warnock to say. It's not up to him to judge us.
I was not there but I understand you were being shouted down by the MAJORITY of those at the game. BTW you were all wetting yourselves on Wednesday that the to had happened when all that had actually happened was that a deal broker was confirmed as being in place, This was not news in any sense of the word but did show you all get more desperate, deluded and pathetic by the hour. When the T/O happens and it will, it will have had nothing to do with a couple of dozen vocal egotists and their chocolate solldiers. Your Warnock / Diouf out sig says everything. Diouf has turned out to be our best player by far so far this season, and Warnock is working a near miracle in the circs.
I disagree to be honest. I'm not the one to protest during the game but I do believe that they want whats right for the club and paying over hundred quid for a family of 4 to watch hull on a Tuesday night is not the way forward and people who are frustrated at struggling to watch the games are going to show their frustrations towards the current regime. Bates hasn't done one good thing for this football club and there is no way his bullshit would make me believe he has right from the day he bought it I knew he was only in it for the money and if you are one that had wool pulled over their eyes then fine but don't have a go at the people who are protesting for change.
Warnock is a genius, his track record stands up, and when he speaks its worth listening to him. We don't know if players commented after the Hull game, but he doesn't normally say something like this. Keep the Bates protests outside the ground, support the players fully inside it.
I agree totally about Bates and all you say about him. However when the players are on the pitch I dont think the Bates out stuff serves any purpose. Bates is a rich man because he rides over others and doesn't care. The protests stoke his ego and give him reason to carry on to spite people. When thhe £££s hit he table the deal will be done noy until. When he has gone we will all get back to MOT unless we end up with a divided fanbase with one section believing they have some moral supremeacy.
I don't give a **** how well Diouf's played, he's a deplorable person and I don't want people like that playing for Leeds United. Warnock is a decent manager, but he's with us for one season to try to get promotion for his own sake, and I don't think that's what we need right now, his record with us hasn't exactly been brilliant either, so I have no idea how he's working a near miracle.
Fans do have the right to protest,and I believe protesting does have a negative effect on the team when done inside the ground.do i shout bates out ? yes but out of desperation to get rid.maybe doing short term damage for the long term future. And Colin he's not a disgrace he's doing a job.Don't expect an employee to have a fans love or understanding of our past and future.
I'm not claiming that, however I don't want a manager who is here for one season of glory for his own sake. If he fails (let's face it, very likely), we're stuck in the Championship with a team of ageing journeymen and no manager.
given who we have played and our points/ position right now what are you basing this pessimism on. We will be top 6 before Descember if we keep playing a we are. I am much more hopeful than this time last year. and yes that would even be with you know who in the boardroom.
No we won't. We've been inconsistent at best and that's how we're going to carry on unless the takeover goes through and there is serious investment in January, a good result in the Cup doesn't change this.
Didn't intend to imply you did,just the first post says disgrace when i think he's just expressing his short term view.I also think he will be at Leeds for years.Reminds me of Wilco.
I am reading this comment totally different, I am seeing it as Warnock was disappointed for the fans not with them. Maybe an undertone or a hint that it was a shame fans allowed 'other things' to get in the way. I do see it as more of a dig at the powers above, Warnock saying it is a shame that this is being allowed to drag on because it is affecting the fans and support which then hinders the team slightly. Warnock did say "for the fans" not "with"..
We supported the team all game, more than any other part of the ground, you utter thick ****. What the **** did you do to support the team? The players played better when we sang Bates out. Warnock and Kenny were loving the songs directed towards them 'Neil Warnock hates Ken Bates'/'Paddy Kenny hates Ken Bates'. True. Chip van is just making his ****e up as he goes along, as ever. It could be either. You could say 'the only disappointing game for defending' and mean you were disappointed with the defending, or 'the only disappointing game for the defenders' and mean the defenders were disappointed. I hope you're right. But the second half of the sentence makes me think he's buying into the Bates propaganda which says that players hate it when there's protesting. They don't, and that's a fact. If anyone can demonstrate the mental process that stops a player playing well when 'get out of our club, you Chelsea bastard' is sung, I'll concede. But it's just not true, and Warnock shouldn't buy into this happy-clappy notion that the fans are just there to love everything about the club and leave without voicing their point of view. Semantically, it's suspect, but I do think this subjugation of Leeds fans has to stop, or our atmospheres on a Tuesday night will all be like at the Hull game. And I stick by my view that what was said is a disgrace. If protests are done outside the ground, people say Bates will just shut the curtains and ignore them. If they're done inside the ground, all of a sudden the players stop performing (even though they actually don't). If it's a march from the city centre, it's silly and pointless. If it's boycotting, we're damaging the club. Bates has spun so much bullshit to take potshots at any form of protest against him that the fans have started to believe it. There's no way that Leeds fans can try force Bates out without being ridiculed by his sheep, whether they're aware they're sheep or not. Carry on regardless.
