This one is for the stewards: [video=youtube;WIHAkqCls4A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIHAkqCls4A[/video] Up yours you bunch of bum bandits!
I've just two things to say on this weekend's perhaps over-zealous stewarding: Charlie Whiting has a duty to refer almost all incidents to the stewards. Allan McNish was the driver's representative to the stewards this weekend. Only the first point applies to every race…
Does he though? Surly only those items that are clear problems need to go to the stewards. Wouldn't that save the stewards getting bogged down and then having things investigated post race rather than while things are still ongoing? It seems to be to a point where a driver can guff and it's under investigation.
Seb is being targeted and it's soooooo ****ing obvious now! The kid cant even actually drive without being dragged to the stewards. The same applies with RBR and the FIA. Stinks, stinks, stinks! Now I know how the Lewis fans felt!
If Vettel would have gotten a penalty today, it would have been pretty clear that there were shenanigans. Seemed like they were looking for any excuse for a while there. I think there would have been uproar if they did.
He didn't get a penalty so whats the problem exactly. They investigated it because theres a rule over that kind of incident, but found Seb innocent. Stop making up ****.
Senna's is understandable if they felt he'd deliberately squeezed Massa into the wall, which it looked like he'd done to me, pretty sure they don't normal veer back to the inside between those two left handers. Webber's is a joke though, I don't really want to drag the whole going off track to gain an advantage thing again, but people agree it's acceptable to run wide if you're forced off track right? He also looked to me like he was slightly ahead of Kobayashi before he left the track as well. I'm guessing there'll be further punishments meted out for the collisions between Perez, Hulkenberg and Kobayashi as well. The grid is going to be an absolute mess next in Suzuka.
I hear ya, Sarge! And I am not at all surprised to see this sort of reaction from amongst the more well-informed followers of F1: those who might contribute to a forum. I also think I share some of the fundamental thinking being expressed here (that some of these incidents were precisely what racing should be about â the Massa/Senna move being a prime example). It's just that I feel a word should be said in Charlie Whiting's defence since essentially all he does with regard to such incidents, is give a nod to others to investigate and consider the evidence. There were a number of incidents today which, for the sake of consistency with recent events, probably required at least some scrutiny. It's then up to the stewards to consider the evidence and decide how serious an incident is, and whether any penalties should be applied. Charlie's role is to direct proceedings; thereby allowing others to fulfil their particular roles. In this sense, he is not so much the 'definitive expert' but merely refers incidents to those who are considered to be. Also, as I understand it, the message presented to TV viewers that an incident is under investigation only appears once an incident has not been dismissed by the stewards. Or, to put it another way, the message appears only after the stewards have decided it is worth further investigation*. Allan McNish was the drivers' representative today. Personally, I am not surprised at a few raised eyebrows**. - - -o0o- - - *If I am in any way wrong about the chronology of events â and in particular, the timing of the appearance of on-screen messages â I hereby apologise to all concerned. **To be fair to McNish, I should declare that his ego (and perhaps mine) has so far kept him off my Christmas list! However, in the professional sense, I have always acknowledged his considerable ability at the office (his primary one, that is: behind the wheel).
This. His contributions to the stewarding panel need to be analysed thoroughly; he didn't find an excuse to punish Hamilton this weekend, for which I commend his restraint (!), but it is conspicuous that when he is on the panel, it appears that the thinking goes along the lines of the stewards are not doing their job properly if they are not doing anything at all. In that respect he is rather like certain football referees, who seem to think that controversy due to poor decisions benefits the game, and just as popular!
With a case like this it would be best to just ignore me and pretend I'm like those people trying to make you give money for charity in the middle of a town center or something!
There was no reason that should have gone to the stewards at all... That was racing. I also feel that Vettel's penalty in Italy was racing. I'm just lost at how we can be at a point where the very essence of motor sport is being either penalized or questioned. I get the whole safety aspect (and very much appreciate it) and I understand that certain moves have to be punished or at least looked at, but I fear that we're on the brink of out and out racing being squashed.
To be fair to Silver... It's not like the sport hasn't had a history of rather "convenient" penalties. So I can see how he might have a sense of something being amiss, even if it isn't necessarily.
i think we can safely say that vettel will not be winning any championships this year, except maybe Most Offtrack Overtakes or Most Annoying Cheat. F1 is rotten to the core, and vettel winning another might affect viewing figures adversely. although if hamilton broke down in every race i would definitely buy sky. warms the old cockles.
Aaaaaah... Though the championship MAY be out of reach for Hamilton, I can still take great pleasure in imagining the utter rage that some would endure if he somehow did manage to pull a rabbit out of the hat. It's a sport for crying out loud... Just bloody well enjoy it no matter what the result. After close to 30 years watching F1, I have 3 seasons where the driver I support actually won. It's a bloody good job I don't get bent out of shape over it.
He doesn't like anyone. Presumably he's some bitter, failed racing driver who thinks all the best drivers are in stock car racing because they aren't commercially viable enough for F1.
