Justice for the 96.

In the aftermath of Hillsborough the then Alex Ferguson offered his help and that of Manchester United and Utd captain Bryan Robson, Alex Ferguson and Martin Edwards visited the carpet of flowers on the Anfield pitch in private at the invitation of the then secretary Peter Robinson and the Chairman John Smith, a cash donation was given on behalf of Alex Ferguson and another by Martin Edwards on behalf of Manchester United, it was requested by both parties that the substantial donations were kept out of public view.

Alex ferguson and Bryan Robson offered their services to Kenny Dalglish in the aftermath and offered to attend funerals etc.

These things are appreciated by true reds and will never be forgotten.

Also Manchester United sent a letter to Lord Justice Taylor as part of his enquiry as the following explains,

Manchester United provided evidence of Liverpool fans' "exemplary" behaviour to the public inquiry into the Hillsborough disaster in a letter, written four months before the tragedy, which thanked the Anfield club for supporters' conduct when the clubs met on New Year's Day 1989.As Sir Alex Ferguson offered an eloquent plea to his own club's fans yesterday to put aside old enmities, end Hillsborough chants and take the opportunity "to show your greatness" when the clubs meet at Anfield a week tomorrow, the letter from United chairman Martin Edwards to Liverpool general secretary Peter Robinson delivered more grounds for reconciliation. In it, Edwards held out the prospect that the conduct of fans at the game might "herald a new beginning between supporters of both our clubs and create the same goodwill which exists between Manchester United and Liverpool at all other levels."
Edwards' letter, made public in the Hillsborough Independent Panel archive, would have been used at the Taylor Inquiry to counter the idea, propagated by South Yorkshire Police, local MP Irvine Patnick and others, that Liverpool supporters were somehow to blame for the disaster. Edwards told Robinson that United "appreciated the good atmosphere and general contribution" to a match that Liverpool lost 3-1.
The rivalry between the two clubs will always be rabid – laced as it is with unique historical and geographical dimensions, as Ferguson always points out. But the United manager yesterday recollected how he had feared for his own fans' safety in the crudely fenced football stadia of the 1980s.
"The thing that sticks out in my mind at that time was those fences around the stadiums," said Ferguson, one of the first people to call the then Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish after the tragedy at Sheffield Wednesday's ground. "That turned out to be catastrophic really. I remember us going to Derby [in August 1989] in the time of Michael Knighton [whose £10m attempt to buy United eventually came to nothing]. It was before they started limiting away fans [and] we took a massive support of about 10,000. Michael Knighton was walking round, shaking hands with the fans, and they were trying to climb over those fences. It was frightening. You think back to those fences; they were put up to avoid fans going onto the pitch if you remember. In that period, there was some bad fan behaviour around the country. But it turned out it cost people lives, I think. It contributed to what happened at Hillsborough."
The most partisan of Liverpool fans will afford Ferguson a nod today, for the way he encapsulated the need to put away for good the "Hillsborough" and "Munich" chants which have polluted the fixture. "There are always opportunities to show your greatness and I think this is another one," the Glaswegian said. "I think it's a moment for those two great clubs to show why they're two great clubs."
It remains to be seen whether United will seek to publish any messages to fans urging better conduct, though Ferguson does not seem to consider that necessary. Dalglish tells how Ferguson also sent a group of United fans across to Anfield to pay respects in Hillsborough's aftermath – a "wonderful gesture" as he described it many years later, though his own hopes that this might re-establish the bonds that Edwards had spoken of in his letter to Robinson were to be short-lived. "They soon went back to their self-same ways. The hating continued," Dalglish has since reflected.
For this weekend. Ferguson has the prospect of Roberto Martinez's seemingly resurgent Wigan Athletic at Old Trafford and though Robin van Persie and Shinji Kagawa both trained yesterday despite international break injuries, it is a defence that have conceded two goals in each of their last two Premier League games that concerns him. "Do we have to score three every game to win? I don't want to got down that road," Ferguson said. He will draw Darren Fletcher into his squad, as he continues his slow emergence from a debilitating bowel condition, though the Scotsman seems unlikely to feature on the bench. The League Cup tie with Newcastle United on Wednesday is a more probable target for him.
This will probably be another weekend of landmarks – potentially Ryan Giggs' 600th league fixture for United, Paul Scholes 700th game and Rio Ferdinand's 400th. Though Ferguson suggested Giggs would endure for the longest – another two years – Scholes' display in turning a struggle at Southampton into a 3-2 win makes his current contribution the extraordinary one. "It was like opening the door to another room," Ferguson said yesterday of the 37-year-old's transformation of that fixture.
Ferguson insisted Wayne Rooney was making progress. The scar on his gashed thigh is healing though he is not back in full training yet and doing all his work "with the physics" and minus the ball, as Ferguson put it. As he spoke, the Carrington training complex outside was continuing its overhaul with a garish new sign proclaiming the name of the club. The new £13m medical facility, scheduled for November, is needed. The knee injury which Phil Jones sustained in training last weekend will keep him out for eight to 10 weeks, while Chris Smalling's ongoing recovery from a metatarsal fracture will see him back in training by the end of the month.





​Idiotic Chelsea fans should keep their noses out of what doesn't concern them.

 

Interesting article Page. Perhaps SKD could give it a read as it contradicts his deluded and ill informed belief that Fergie is the primary cause of the animosity between the two sets of fans. The irony is it's people like SKD who are the actual problem.

 

^^^ this

 

Definitely.

 

Shows how some scousers do not get it

Some idiots are rejecting his hand of friendship on the basis that he was cool when dogsh1t offered his during the Suarez incident. there is a significant difference. Your neighbour, calls you names, etc and then he says let's forget it mate. You'll think twice and hesitate at the timing. Your neighbour has suffered through an awful wrong not caused by you. You say let's end any animosity between us. What's so bl**dy difficult to understand...?

 

A lot of the Lfc supporters on that thread have posted that they 100% agree with SAF`s sentiment. Ok one or two are saying he should have done this during the LSvPE affair but that was an entirely different scenario.
SAF has in the past also written to Utd`s match-going away support asking them to stop any Hillsborough songs, although it is impossible for he himself to police.
The media have already started to create an atmosphere ahead of our game next week. This could be a good thing as long as the atmosphere created is on a positive note which to me is up to the fans, not the media, as they cannot write about Lfc v Man Utd without mentioning LS & PE.
Next week should be nothing to do with those two players, it should be about fans... oh and a game of football thrown in as well.

 

There is a difference between saying bad things and making jokes about bad things.

It appears you are loathe to be called out - generally when people result to insults like you have, they have nothing worthwhile left to say (if indeed you did in the first place).

I see you have no interest in anything but swearing like a child so this will be my last comment.

Local side? Carrick Rangers, to call it amateur level would probably discredit amateurs. Been a few times - it's a completely different sort of spectacle to professional football, as is the crowd etc. But I'm not here to defend myself, am I?

'glory hunting racist twat'...? What? Grow up.

EDIT: How could anyone find fault with what Sir Alex had to say? Good on him.

 

You should get out of your own arse once in a while

 

Is that seriously your response?

I know I said I wouldn't reply but I really can't resist.

If you think the way I write is patronising or formal then I feel very sorry for you

 

Wow, comas really is the lowest of the low

 

You scousers just keep coming

I havent actually said anything, you are just so intent on causing problems

 

Regardless of whether you previously said anything, calling someone a murderer and racist in a tirade of insults makes me believe my assessment of you is correct

 

When did I say that on here?

 

Biased bullshit. In February before the game at Old Trafford, Kenny Dalglish offered the hand of friendship to Alex Ferguson and attempted to call an end to the aggravation over the Suarez/Evra affair. Ferguson was having none of it. Ferguson is a vile hypocrite that does things to suit himself. I bet he's turning a deaf ear to some of the vile chanting his supporters are doing today.

If they do it next week, expect a small number of Liverpool fans to retaliate. Guess what, he will probably slam the Liverpool fans even though the United fans kicked it off.

 

Why what are we singing today?? Typical guilt ridden scouser, lies lies lies

 

Exhibit a

 

Is that a quote from this thread about the 99?

 

I use the term murderers for liverpool fans due to the manslaughter convictions they received from another event. Nothing to do with hillsborough

 

Utter dross.

Comparing the Suarez/Evra thing to the loss of 96 people. Fergie had every right to tell Dalglish to **** off. Every right.

In this instance he is also right because the loss of 96 people and the fact the truth is out should be enough to at least have a truce between the two sets of fans even if its only temporarily.

As I said in the banter thread, Liverpool or more accurately Anfield were singing munich songs and doing plane gestures long before the 80's.

 

The ****s have a cheek to complain about us when they started the whole vile chants in football